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  • #31
    Originally posted by Jeanied View Post
    Just some random thoughts from an ex art teacher!
    Being an artist is more about approach than any intrinsic ability to draw or paint. Take a camera to capture ideas / shapes/ colours as you go round - then use these for later reference / inspiration and practice in your sketch book with the picture in front for reference. You will soon discover if you are more reflective or spontaneous in sketching. Drawing is no more than wandering round the page with a line (taking a line for a walk). A lot of the garden sketches featured earlier can be done with a ruler and template - so dig around for a template! Introduce yourself to water colour by using water colour crayons - they are great! (You colour in then blend with water!) And it is as much about the parts you leave blank than the colours you fill in (looking through half closed eyes is a good way of assessing these).
    Now you've got me started
    So what makes you an EX Art Teacher, once one always one surely. xxx

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Jeanied View Post
      (looking through half closed eyes is a good way of assessing these).
      Now you've got me started

      More art tips please
      WPC F Hobbit, Shire police

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      • #33
        Cut and paste is a wonderful tool! (And I ALSO believe artists are born!)
        My Majesty made for him a garden anew in order
        to present to him vegetables and all beautiful flowers.- Offerings of Thutmose III to Amon-Ra (1500 BCE)

        Diversify & prosper


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        • #34
          Originally posted by Snadger View Post
          (And I ALSO believe artists are born!)
          Indeed they are Snadger, the rest of us mere mortals practice and swear, a lot
          WPC F Hobbit, Shire police

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          • #35
            Hi 5's for Snadger
            Bob Leponge
            Life's disappointments are so much harder to take if you don't know any swear words.

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            • #36
              Don't listen to the cynics, Piskie. I said it was all about approach, didn't I? - it's pretty clear why they don't think you can learn to be an artist!
              Re drawing - find out what you like to use first!
              I think a good starting point for you would be to line up all the different drawing things you can find (fine pencil, soft pencil, crayon, chalk, felt tip, charcoal, pen and ink, or paint and brush) and just experiment. Doodle a lot! That will give you some idea of what you like to work in best. I discovered that I am best with really messy drawing things like ink and paint - even clay! Some people are much more drawn (sorry ) to the fine point of a HH pencil/ draftsman's pens etc. Some people like to mix and match. I am really fond of the technique of using tracing paper to trace a very simple starting point from somewhere (book, magazine, photo) and then sticking the basic tracing down on your page and embellishing from there.
              nuff said
              Last edited by Jeanied; 30-11-2009, 05:53 PM.
              Whooops - now what are the dogs getting up to?

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              • #37
                Have you seen what most kids drawings look like? You're seriously lucky if you get a neck and your eye balls aren't bigger than your feet. I'm sure there is an element of 'talent' involved but there is a lot of learning too.

                Don't look at the finished pieces as a whole, they'll just frighten you. Everything is just made up of simple shapes. So if you can draw a circle or a square you can produce something at least passable.

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                • #38
                  I believe true artists are born not made irrelevant of the discipline. However, with practice and time and effort, one not born to it can get really close! So stick it out and go for it. I just might mean you have to practice a bit more is all.
                  Never test the depth of the water with both feet

                  The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory....

                  Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.

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                  • #39
                    Just wondering if we would all have the same answer if we asked 'are cooks born not made?'
                    Whooops - now what are the dogs getting up to?

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                    • #40
                      wounded! for me, a truely talented cook is an artist Jeanied!
                      Never test the depth of the water with both feet

                      The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory....

                      Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.

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                      • #41
                        Aah, yes RT, but does that mean you can't teach someone to cook?
                        Whooops - now what are the dogs getting up to?

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Jeanied View Post
                          Just wondering if we would all have the same answer if we asked 'are cooks born not made?'
                          I was thinking more along the lines of footballers!

                          On another tack, I wouldn't mind betting that a lot of draftsmen (draughtsmen) couldn't draw freehand very well and a lot of architects could?
                          Last edited by Snadger; 30-11-2009, 07:15 PM.
                          My Majesty made for him a garden anew in order
                          to present to him vegetables and all beautiful flowers.- Offerings of Thutmose III to Amon-Ra (1500 BCE)

                          Diversify & prosper


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                          • #43
                            Art teaches you to see properly ... A camera is a good recording tool but sketching makes you really observe something, properly study it.

                            Watercolours are good for garden design, because they're transparent: you can still see the pen lines underneath the colour. Watercolour pencils are ideal, I would have thought. Easier to carry round than pots of water.
                            All gardeners know better than other gardeners." -- Chinese Proverb.

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                            • #44
                              Only just seen this thread. I went to college in my thirties to study HNC in Textile Design . Our sketchbooks consisted of all sorts from little sketches (even very basic) to bits of stuff stuck in even chocolate wrappers etc if the colour went with what we were getting ideas for Tissue paper was good cos if you glue it with lots of PVA you can make the colours run ad layer different colours etc. So basically our sketch books were just used as an inspirational aid.Photos, pics from magazines anything to inspire how you want to plan and design your garden.
                              S*d the housework I have a lottie to dig
                              a batch of jam is always an act of creation ..Christine Ferber

                              You can't beat a bit of garden porn

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                              • #45
                                I agree Binley: think of sketchbook more as 'scrapbook'. I still have some of mine from college (I did Textiles too)
                                All gardeners know better than other gardeners." -- Chinese Proverb.

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