Clearing weeds with Roundup

[Essexboy]

If I spray weeds with Roundup and rake off the dead material before rotovating will I be able to plant in that ground next spring ?
any advice would be welcome

[ameno]

Depends on what the active ingredient is.
Assuming it's the standard glyphosate based one, then yes. Hell, you don't even need to rake the dead material off; you can just rotovate it in if you want. Glyphosate breaks down harmlessly in the soil within a few weeks into phosphorus and nitrogen compounds.

To be honest, that's the case with most garden herbicides, actually. The only ones you really need to be wary of are lawn herbicides, or any other selective herbicides, designed to kill broadleaved weeds but leave grass untouched. These ones tend to linger in the soil for a year or more, stunting (although usually not outright killing, as the concentration is no longer strong enough) any non-grass plants you try to grow there.

[Melmel]

If I spray weeds with Roundup and rake off the dead material before rotovating will I be able to plant in that ground next spring ?
any advice would be welcome

Hello Essexboy, I'm in the same position now as you were last year. How did it go, and what did you end up doing?

[Nicos]

Melmel
Just letting you know that Essexboy hasn’t visited the Vine since last summer - so you may not get a response.

[Jungle Jane]

Hello Essexboy, I'm in the same position now as you were last year. How did it go, and what did you end up doing?

If you are using round up try not to get it on skin it can cause a rash & could wear a mask so it’s not breathed in,might sound OTT but it’s not good for weeds or us. I used round up years ago & the weeds grow back after a few months,new weed seeds land on the area etc. May aswell pull them by hand/tool get the root out. Also there’s glyphosate in drinking water & everything like bread,it doesn’t ‘break down harmlessly’. There’s lots of info online,like this below 🧐☕️

https://www.alsenvironmental.co.uk/m...a-in-water.pdf
“Glyphosate and formulations such as Roundup have been approved by regulatory bodies worldwide; however concerns about their effects on humans and the environment persist. The United States Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA) has placed glyphosate in Toxicity Category III. The World Health Organization’s International Agency for Research on Cancer have classified glyphosate as “probably carcinogenic in humans”,

[Snoop Puss]

JJ, I wouldn't use Roundup either. I had very poor seed germination after using it to clear a field years ago - before real info was available - but thought it was the fault of the seed I used till I read a Canadian study that suggested glyphosate affects the germination of seeds subsequently sown.

It does break down in soil, but Melmel, if you're hoping to sow seeds or put seedlings in very soon after spraying, check on the internet the effects of glyphosate on seed germination and health of seedlings to make sure you're giving yourself enough time from spraying to sowing/planting.

With regard to wheat, I choose to buy organic flour because glyphosate is used as a crop dessicant, which, if I've understood rightly, means it's used shortly before harvesting to ensure an entire wheatfield is dry enough for easy harvest. I'm guessing there's enough on the grain for it to show up in tests.

[Jungle Jane]

I only buy organic flour too since reading the crops are sprayed with glyphosate so it all ripens at the same time ready for harvest. Round up ready crops they’re called I think.

[Mark Rand]

'Roundup Ready' varieties are those that have been genetically engineered to be resistant/tolerant to glyphosate. Then the herbicide can be used to kill weeds without harming the desired crop. They aren't used in the UK.

[Jungle Jane]

GM crops are in our country as animal feed,the consumer isn’t told on dairy or meat packaging that the animals have been fed a diet of it.
“Large quantities of GM soya and maize are imported into Europe, including Britain, as animal feed. Meat and dairy products fed on GM animal feed are not labelled as GM-fed in British supermarkets. The EU has also decided to allow GM feed to include trace levels of crops which have no safety approval in Europe (i.e. are unauthorised GM crops). Campaign group GM Freeze has published a list of where to buy non-GM-fed meat, milk and eggs.”

“Many experimental field trials of GM crops are conducted in Europe. In Britain, there have been field trials of GM potatoes, GM wheat and GM Camila sativa ("false flax"). In 2019, trials are planned for GM wheat and broccoli at the John Innes Centre's farm just outside Norwich, and for GM camelina sativa ('false flax') by Rothamsted Research in Hertfordshire and Suffolk. Find out more about objections”……
https://www.genewatch.org/sub-568547

[Jungle Jane]

I just found this list with products on UK shelves containing genetically modified product,I didn’t know about these things,like in 2017 orange petunias were found in a GC,there are no naturally orange petunias,if you see any it’s illegal to sell them. Check the labels when buying….

https://www.gmfreeze.org/shopping/gm-on-the-shelves/

[Nicos]

Very interesting posts JJ…thank you.

[Melmel]

Thank you everyone for these comments, I meant rotavating, but turns out they gave us the wrong plot and today I got shown our actual allotment plot and it's kept much much better!!😁 so lucky!

[Nicos]

Wow!…that was a stroke of luck

Hope you hadn’t done much on the original one?

[Snoop Puss]

Thank you everyone for these comments, I meant rotavating, but turns out they gave us the wrong plot and today I got shown our actual allotment plot and it's kept much much better!!😁 so lucky!

Brilliant news, Melmel. Best wishes for a great growing year.

[Melmel]

Thank you Snoop!🌷🌷🌷 you too!!