Dialect or Lazyness

[ladylottie]

Ox Tongue is "lurper" in our house.



We say ".. o'er Bill's muthers" and God only knows VVG. Being one of His tenants I'll think of something I'm sure

How strange - you're from Sheffield yet we used to say "it's gone black over Bill's mothers" and I was born in the Black Country near Dudley.
Bill's mother must have had a big house & garden!

[Florence Fennel]

Googled and there are a few explanations, but I like this one:


Quizmonster It means rain is on the way. This saying seems to be more widespread around the country nowadays, but many - including Eric Partridge in his �Dictionary of Catch Phrases' - believe it started life in the East Midlands. The best explanation I've ever heard as to its origin is the one that suggests the �Bill', �Will' or �William' in the phrase refers to William (Will/Bill) Shakespeare. He was born in Stratford-on-Avon, to the west of the Midlands and - if the sky is dark and threatening over that area (ie over Bill's mother's) - it means rain is probably headed for the east of the Midlands region, because the prevailing winds are likely to push the wet weather in that direction.

Your location LL?

[ladylottie]

Googled and there are a few explanations, but I like this one:


Quizmonster It means rain is on the way. This saying seems to be more widespread around the country nowadays, but many - including Eric Partridge in his �Dictionary of Catch Phrases' - believe it started life in the East Midlands. The best explanation I've ever heard as to its origin is the one that suggests the �Bill', �Will' or �William' in the phrase refers to William (Will/Bill) Shakespeare. He was born in Stratford-on-Avon, to the west of the Midlands and - if the sky is dark and threatening over that area (ie over Bill's mother's) - it means rain is probably headed for the east of the Midlands region, because the prevailing winds are likely to push the wet weather in that direction.

Your location LL?

Yes, that sounds reasonable! Thanks for that - we weren't all that far really from Stratford.

[Creemteez]

Ohh I worked in Forest Gate for 5 yrs CT...

Just down the road from the spotted dog....

Well, who'd have thunk it! I was born in Forest Gate Hospital!
Haven't been back to my old stomping ground in over ten years. It was pretty rough then - dread to think what it's like now....

[Creemteez]

Likewise listening to you lot! My baby boys are 19 yo but I still remember the accents and all from my time in the UK. Spent 12months there in Romford

I lived in Romford for about three years! - Still miss the market!

Hey! That's TWO people on here who have lived in the same area as me and found it necessary to emigrate to Australia...........

[Pa Snips]

Same over here in Bury, BigM, maybe worse!

Am off t' shops furra napple = I'm off to the shops for an apple

Am goey nospi'al = I'm going to the hospital

Av yer gorra nammer? = Have you got a hammer (hopefully a general question rather than a request, otherwise it should be..."Av yer gorra nammer, please?)

[VirginVegGrower]

Googled and there are a few explanations, but I like this one:


Quizmonster It means rain is on the way. This saying seems to be more widespread around the country nowadays, but many - including Eric Partridge in his �Dictionary of Catch Phrases' - believe it started life in the East Midlands. The best explanation I've ever heard as to its origin is the one that suggests the �Bill', �Will' or �William' in the phrase refers to William (Will/Bill) Shakespeare. He was born in Stratford-on-Avon, to the west of the Midlands and - if the sky is dark and threatening over that area (ie over Bill's mother's) - it means rain is probably headed for the east of the Midlands region, because the prevailing winds are likely to push the wet weather in that direction.

Your location LL?

How odd and we are only an hour from Stratford, yet I've never heard the expression down here in the EM. Mr VVG definitely knows it as wife's mother's and she lived in Leeds too

[chris]

My brother in law (also from Derby) calls everyone 'Me Ode' - most people around his work do. Being from Derby myself I'd never heard of that until I met him.

I call him me ode, and he calls me butt

[julesapple]

Chris, I'd make a guess that 'butt' comes from Butty - mate. Buttys were the narrow boats that were towed my other boats, they had no power of their own. Meode is a friend. But it could be ode meaning old...they say that in Leicestershire.

[dominic10]

Now on the south coast I'm from the Potteries originally and my OH is from London. My OH thought it best our boys said grarss instead of grass, barth instead of bath etc etc - when one of my adult sons moved to live in Yorkshire he was really gutted to be called a 'posh git' during a football match (he was the goalie) for the way he talked! I too understood everything!

[Feral007]

I lived in Romford for about three years! - Still miss the market!

Hey! That's TWO people on here who have lived in the same area as me and found it necessary to emigrate to Australia...........

Well looks like you emigrated to Cornwall Creemteez!
My cousin lived in Kessingland and I used to visit there - change bus at lowestoft - and I see someone here is from Lowestoft. Busdriver used to have trouble when I'd ask for a ticket to Kessing-Land. I had to learn to say KESSINGlund. I think we settled for 'Oh it's you again' in the finish
Romford Markets were good. The thing that the Irish girls and I couldn't get over was all those young Romford lasses, in their woolly coats, scarves, gloves, and no stockings - pure white, goosebumpey legs!
I seem to be one of those people who can understand a lot of accents. When I came home from the UK my UK and Irish friends would be having trouble understanding somebody in the pub, and I'd be the translator in the middle! Used to have the same thing when I was a trainee nurse. We had a new arrival Chinese Dr, and a patient who had the thickest scottish accent I'd heard in a long while! The poor patient and Dr were all at sea. Thursday or Saturday? Funny how similar they sound with a scottish accent Ali

[Florence Fennel]

How odd and we are only an hour from Stratford, yet I've never heard the expression down here in the EM. Mr VVG definitely knows it as wife's mother's and she lived in Leeds too

Do you think that might be related to a Mother-In-Law joke or wishful thinking?

[binley100]

One word which seems unique to here is batch ......as in roll

[Bigmallly]

One word which seems unique to here is batch ......as in roll

I've heard of Bap Bins but not Batch.............too many "B"'s in that sentence...........

[veggiechicken]

The Welsh version: Batch - A small round, flattish loaf of bread.
I think its more of a loaf than a roll though. Swansea batch is the well known one here.
Baps are flattish round soft bread things, cobs are the crusty version.