What can i do with my Vinigar wine i made

[Brewer-again]

amazing !!!!!!!!!!

During my long time on this planet I have met many people who 'don't like stuff'. You realise that there is a mental shutter coming down between the taste and the expressed view.

There is no vinigar in a red wine, not a bit, except for spoilt wines and we are not talking about these. Good wines tend to cost more because the fruit and flavour is more concentrated on the vine or the wine is stored before sale, this can make the taste more complex. You probably would not notice the different flavours unless the food complemented the wine or vice-a-versa.

Sound like a shiraz grape wine would be a good start as it is very fruity. If you try a few good ones you will find some of the new world wines are almost like blackcurrent juice.

Perhaps it is like classical music, you have to be made to sit and listen before a new expierience opens up.

[lynda66]

i don't like cabbage or sprouts either, ..... but i aint about to bother sitting to try and 'learn how to not make them taste like cabbage of sprouts in my gob ....... i'll stick with tea and choccie instead

[Hilary B]

During my long time on this planet I have met many people who 'don't like stuff'. You realise that there is a mental shutter coming down between the taste and the expressed view.

There is no vinigar in a red wine, not a bit, except for spoilt wines and we are not talking about these. Good wines tend to cost more because the fruit and flavour is more concentrated on the vine or the wine is stored before sale, this can make the taste more complex. You probably would not notice the different flavours unless the food complemented the wine or vice-a-versa.

Sound like a shiraz grape wine would be a good start as it is very fruity. If you try a few good ones you will find some of the new world wines are almost like blackcurrent juice.

Perhaps it is like classical music, you have to be made to sit and listen before a new expierience opens up.

There are things I don't like. I still find most red wines not to my taste. I can tell the difference between a 'good, but not me' red and a 'cheap and ordinary' red, and I could distinguish long before I MUCH liked even sweet white wine (I grew up in a Tee-total household).
Apart from sparkling wines (and I don't really know why bubbles make a difference) I mostly prefer wines that are not too dry, and nearly all good red wines are too dry for my liking. ALL wine has SOME acidity (no it isn't 'vinegar', but it is ACID) and MOST red wines and SOME whites are too acid for my liking.
Just as my taste in books is for a 'good yarn', while some of my friends read 'literature', there are people who just don't see any reason to work as hard at music as a lot of classical stuff demands (I love some classical music, but some of it is too 'heavy', like the literature and the wine). That is no reason to consider them uninformed!

[Brewer-again]

acid wine

Now that is a much more reasonable response. Due to the massive number of readers out there in cyber land we have a responsibility to supply quality (zen and the art of, point?) information.

People could go away with the belief that all red wine is vinigar, or worst still that sprouts taste awful. Well they taste great, best bit of the christmas dinner with some gravy or butter MMMMM!!.

I still maintain that a 'I don't like it' mentality is almost an affront to those who do not have the wide choices we enjoy. If you eat to stay alive the 'don't like' shutter does not exist, it only exists naturally to stop us eating foods which would harm us.

[Phreddy]

I still maintain that a 'I don't like it' mentality is almost an affront to those who do not have the wide choices we enjoy. If you eat to stay alive the 'don't like' shutter does not exist, it only exists naturally to stop us eating foods which would harm us.

You could well be right here. I once had the 'Don't like sprouts' scenario explained to me: some people it seems, have a built in aversion. I cannot explain it I only listened to the reason.

Also I never took to alcohol at all! Had to try the 'best bitter' that was extoled by my boss; dishwater in my opinion!

Same with wine, especially the red stuff. Loved Asti Spumanti and the cheaper types, added lemonade to white to make it taste acceptable to me when we go to dinner with other people.

In the village we are known as 'bez alcohol' - without alcohol whereas most of the other Brits are known as senseless boozers!

In Malaysia, of course there is no compulsion to drink, it is a Muslim state.

PG for me to Lynda!

BTW I have a line of Merlot grapes in the BG garden, they are going next year and some sweet desert grapes in their place.

[Hilary B]

Now that is a much more reasonable response. Due to the massive number of readers out there in cyber land we have a responsibility to supply quality (zen and the art of, point?) information.

People could go away with the belief that all red wine is vinigar, or worst still that sprouts taste awful. Well they taste great, best bit of the christmas dinner with some gravy or butter MMMMM!!.

I still maintain that a 'I don't like it' mentality is almost an affront to those who do not have the wide choices we enjoy. If you eat to stay alive the 'don't like' shutter does not exist, it only exists naturally to stop us eating foods which would harm us.

Alcohol is in no way a necessary food, which is perhaps why it is an 'acquired taste'.
Some of us have digestive intolerances which are almost like an allergy, and to 'dislike' a food may be an early sign of this. Most foods have substances in them which are 'bad in excess' and some folk are more sensitive to those substances than others (I believe this may be the origin of the 'don't like sprouts' thing).
I dislike marzipan, ground almonds in any form, and 'almond essence', although I could happily eat almonds in 'recogniseable' form. The odd one is intensely bitter, and I suspect what I dislike in 'ground' almonds is the presence of those ones all mixed in. Bitter almonds contain cyanide.....

[Brewer-again]

don't like it !!!

I have never suggested or even hinted at alcohol as a necessary food, but I have to admit that I do like it, which is why I inhabit these pages.

As I said before the 'dislike shutter' is for unsafe foods, maybe foods like almonds which as you say have cyanide in them, but I do like them.

Sprouts don't have cyanide just a strong taste that kids rebel against and if they are allowed to leave them they never know the brilliance of brassicas. What is there in sprouts that you don't like apart from the strong and yummy taste.

[Hilary B]

I have never suggested or even hinted at alcohol as a necessary food, but I have to admit that I do like it, which is why I inhabit these pages.

As I said before the 'dislike shutter' is for unsafe foods, maybe foods like almonds which as you say have cyanide in them, but I do like them.

Sprouts don't have cyanide just a strong taste that kids rebel against and if they are allowed to leave them they never know the brilliance of brassicas. What is there in sprouts that you don't like apart from the strong and yummy taste.

Thing is that since alcohol isn't necessary, there is nothing strange in it being on the 'dislike' list of an individual (I like some versions, and not others).
I do like whole almonds, but not ground almonds. Apparently not everyone can detect the cyanide smell/taste. I read somewhere that only about 30% of people are actually sensitive to it....
Sprouts, I actually quite like but dislike of them is quite common, and brassicas generally DO contain a component which is 'bad in excess' (can't remember exactly what) and sprouts have one of the strongest 'brassica tastes' (even more so when overcooked, as they so often are), which might trigger the instinct to reject it, especially in young children. Once that 'dislike' thing has cut in, it does become habit, but it may have started out as valid response to instinct.
Most food I dislike it is a more matter of texture (or rather, lack of texture) especially if the flavour is also rather bland.
Likes and dislikes are very much a reflection of the modern life. It is normal and natural to like sweet flavours, but only in the modern world is it realistically possible to over-indulge in sweetness on a regular basis.......

[Brewer-again]

the're horrid !!

Checked the first ten google site for brassicas and they all say they are excellent for people, anti carciogenic + loads of anti oxidants.

'Brassicas are rich in iodine, important in regulating the functions of the body�s metabolism. Essential for energy utilisation and for normal growth of children: a lack of iodine can retard both the physical and mental development of children, since a deficiency in iodine can lead to serious thyroid problems.'

The only against journal I could find said they should not be overfed to cows!!

I think we both agree that it is a western world problem that leads to western world health problems.

Alcohol is a depressant chemical not a foodstuff.