Mamande toms continue to confuse me

[skeggijon]

I've always believed marmande was semi-determinate

[Nicos]

Me too skeggi !

[jackarmy]

Just checked on them again , realized i hadnt checked the ones in greenhouse and guess what ?, yep, thier fine, just the three outside with the 2 main stem issue.

[tcanact]

One of my 23x plants (all in the greenhouse) has decided to fork (I can't remember the verity of hand) and at the point of the fork I have had a truss appear vertically.

As I was go through all of the plants removing the side shoots I got to this one and it had a me slightly puzzled as I couldn't work out which one was the growing tip... the forking post makes sense, I'm not going mad after all!

Think I'll leave it and see what happens, after all I have a number of others which are the same verity to fail back on if the plant fails.

[solanaceae]

There are two types which leads to the confusion.

Marmande is a cordon indeterminate.
Super Marmande is more of a bush type and is semi-determinate.

[Valleyman]

My marmandes have always forked as well, and stop growing at about 3 foot. Definitely more cordon than bush though as they don't shoot out side shoots at anywhere near the same frequency as a true bush. Depending on the space I often leave the second cordon on. As with most beefsteaks I have found I get more, but smaller toms than if I grow them as a pure cordon.

Marmandes are the only toms that ALWAYS fork for me.

[BUFFS]

A few years ago, several of us were having trouble with http://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gra...oes_65737.html
Maybe this is another "forking"year?
I have 3 Crimson Crush toms that look like bush - not sure what they're supposed to be

over 50yrs ago I can remember my granddad moaning about "forking tomatoes", at least at 7yrs old, that is what it sounded like.........