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  • #16
    hopefully i don't live near the guy/girl who has 14 courgette plants; because I like to leave my car widows down bit in summer and don't want my back seat fill with his/her excess.

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    • #17
      Yeh....that's the sortof thing I could imagine VC ( her) doing too!...don't give her ideas!

      Going back to your original question...what sort of plants are you thinking of growing?

      You do heed to let us know your rough location in your profile though so we can help you better....you say 'fall'....I'm presuming you are located in the USA?
      Last edited by Nicos; 29-09-2014, 05:34 AM.
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      • #18
        Nicos given this is vegging out section I was planning on growing those plants referred to in the gardening books call vegetables. I already gave my frost dates so that should enough info for you.
        As the important part of my original post planning to avoid glut has got lost in this thread.
        I may need to start and thread on that subject.

        As for what I grow here is a list: sweet corn,English peas, edible pod peas, melons, tomatoes, french beans,sweet peppers,carrots,lettuce,broccoli,cauliflower,Garden Cucumbers both salad and pickling types,potatoes,patty pan squash, hubbards squash,

        what I don't grow: courgettes,pumpkins globe or Jerusalem artichokes,runner or fave beans,Lima beans, cabbage,Brussels sprouts
        ps the only vegetables I grow for storage are edible podded peas,french bean, corn
        Last edited by bananamelon; 30-09-2014, 06:40 AM.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by bananamelon View Post
          I already gave my frost dates so that should enough info for you.
          You may have given your frost dates in this thread, but if it's in your profile every time you post the information is readily available. As it is I need to read the whole thread to find the info!

          Originally posted by bananamelon View Post
          As the important part of my original post planning to avoid glut has got lost in this thread.
          I may need to start and thread on that subject.
          If you want to avoid a glut (as much as possible!) sow successionally for veg such as lettuce, cabbage, cauli, broccoli etc.

          If you only preserve a few vegetables out of the many that you grow you will inevitably have a glut. There are seasons of plenty when fruit and veg are abundant, these are times when veg is traditionally preserved for the lean times.
          Squash etc all store well. Cucumbers, beans, tomatoes etc will always give you a glut. If you don't want to preserve them, give them away.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by bananamelon View Post
            I already gave my frost dates so that should enough info for you.
            It appears from your English (e.g. "fall") that you are in America? ... but could be anywhere I guess. I haven't a clue how growing conditions in America vary - my perception is that the winters are colder and the summer hotter than here, but that obviously varies North to South and Coast to Central. Thus I wouldn't have a clue how to advise you, but if you put your Location in your Profile that info will be available to folk and then those who know can give you some specific advice.

            If you are in America, and given that this is a board hosted in the UK and mostly frequented by UK folk, you might be better off with a forum closer to your home - i.e. there will be more folk who are familiar with your climate and soil etc. For example, we don't really use Frost Dates over here, like they do in America (my perception is that in USA instructions are along the lines of "Sow X weeks before last frost date", because the weather fairly reliably changes from Winter to Summer on that date (with a short Spring). Some years, like last year, we have virtually no frost. Other years it goes on until June ... my average Spring would have a last frost in March.

            All the UK forums I frequent have a handful of American members, they tend to be on the lookout for how we do things differently, and what varieties we grow that are not readily available in USA and so on, so there can be some benefits to having that global input
            Last edited by Kristen; 30-09-2014, 07:59 AM.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by bananamelon View Post
              hopefully i don't live near the guy/girl who has 14 courgette plants; because I like to leave my car widows down bit in summer and don't want my back seat fill with his/her excess.
              Wales to Baltimore is a bit of a long way to throw a courgette
              He who smiles in the face of adversity,has already decided who to blame

              Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity

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              • #22
                Given your approximate location & the fact that you have raised beds,the best plan is probably to look at what grows well in the lower part of New England & use the square foot method to ensure successive crops,rather than growing in rows which will definitely result in gluts
                He who smiles in the face of adversity,has already decided who to blame

                Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity

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                • #23
                  Bit nippy there bananamelon, folks on here are perfectly happy to help...a bit of respect could go a long way! Apologies in advance if I have taken your post the wrong way!
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Jay22 View Post
                    Apologies in advance if I have taken your post the wrong way!
                    FWIW I read it the same way you did
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by bananamelon View Post
                      Nicos given this is vegging out section I was planning on growing those plants referred to in the gardening books call vegetables. I already gave my frost dates so that should enough info for you.
                      As the important part of my original post planning to avoid glut has got lost in this thread.
                      I may need to start and thread on that subject.
                      You're not encouraging us to help you, are you?
                      Frost dates are not all there is to know about local weather conditions. In the UK, when I say I live in South Wales, everyone understands that it is often wet and windy but quite mild. If it was South coast , it would be warmer and drier etc. Some veggies will grow better for those in the South than they will for me - so I choose my crops accordingly.
                      Its not too much to expect that a member should give a general idea of where they garden - we don't expect house number and post/zipcode.
                      By the way, next year, I'm growing even more courgettes and squashes. 14 is not enough. The only gluts that are difficult to cope with are leafy greens like lettuce that aren't suitable for freezing, pickling, drying or any other method of preservation you can think of. To me, Glut = Success. No Glut = Failure.

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                      • #26
                        You missed out courgette cake!

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                        • #27
                          the growing condition are not consistent here since some summers are hot others are cooler. the same with autumn and spring.

                          courgette cake a method of hiding courgette because you don't what believe you grew 14 plants with 100's of courgette. the people near by have enough of there own and don't want your surplus.

                          As for the back car seat get filled with them. location is not deterrent since if enough people near by have garden there is always one household with too many of them; who tries to pawn them off on others.


                          Jay22 yes you took it the wrong way. Being facetious is lost on some.
                          Last edited by bananamelon; 30-09-2014, 03:37 PM.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by bananamelon View Post
                            here
                            Sorry, I'm passed guessing and imagining and almost certainly wasting time giving the wrong advice as a consequence.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by bananamelon View Post
                              I am starting to work on my 2015 vegetable garden plan.
                              I thought best to start early on the planning so I can get thing in on time this year.
                              my veg garden is 24ft by 30 with 10 10ftx4 ft raised bed.

                              I am just looking for various idea on what plant and how much at time plant so to avoid gluts.
                              In a nutshell - plant whatever you like to eat and do it little but often.

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                              • #30
                                Hi bananamelon, welcome to the forum!

                                Just to expand a little on veggiechicken's last post, you can work backwards from what you like to eat.

                                If you get through 2 cabbages per week, aim to plant 3 per week from the earliest possible date (starting under cover if necessary) to the latest possible date. Choose different varieties to extend the season.

                                Similarly if you get through 10 pounds of potatoes per week you will need to plant maybe 200 tubers of various kinds to get a year's supply. You'll need to find somewhere to store these though, they will only be harvestable between June and October whatever varieties you grow.

                                Specific advice on varieties will depend on your own microclimate.

                                I'm guessing you're from here, am I right:

                                Last edited by Martin H; 30-09-2014, 04:19 PM.
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