Roses...couple of questions

[Containergardener]

Firstly has anyone moved a rose from ground to a pot with success . I have rose Handel which is struggling.

Also anyone have climbing Rose's in large pots

[Scarlet]

Climbers are usually vigorous - the roots are huge. I don't think a pot would be suitable.

Roses in pots are usually the patio varieties.

Did you plant it where a previous rose has been? They are hungry plants - have you fed it?

[Containergardener]

Theyve been by trellis of pergola i lost a lovely orange few yrs ago in winter, possibly wind, lost a yellow and another , not in same holes but same area.
Its very claggy soil there and windy. Ive fed bfb and rose food with each.

Ones that do better are one miniature climber higher up garden , better soil and drains better there and those in pots are fine.
I just cant get them to grow on trellis/pergola.

[Scarlet]

Well I used Mycorrhizal Fungi on mine, especially when planting where previous roses have been. I think it made a huge difference when I planted some new roses in exactly the same spot. It encourages a better root system which is what you want.
I would try some - it's worth the pennies as it's not cheap.
They don't really like dry soil so being "claggy" shouldn't be a problem. I'm on clay and it does them no harm. Though a good layer of well rotted manure should help.

[Containergardener]

Funny enough ive just been reading about that MF .
I shall look some up tonight.
Ive never used horse manure as my labs love eating it thinking maybe garden centre organic stuff be ok?
Perhaps if i try and dig some claggy stuff out and get some better compost and manure in.
I really dont want to lose them, present from OH when i came out of hospital again.

[Scarlet]

Haha! Hmm, my dog loves it too! - just add some decent compost? Something to help the soil a bit?

I came back to say that last year was very dry, and my new roses really struggled.
So maybe a combination of a few things?

The MF stuff is pricey but worth a shot. I know you can never tell if it was that but I wouldn't hesitate buying it now.

#just re read your post! Taking some soil out and replacing with some better stuff would be a good idea.

[Containergardener]

My roses were best ever last yr here, mustv been the sun and lack of rain /wind .
Ive got rose and shrub compost already for them .
Thanks scarlet, i love roses.

Edit.. roses in pots best last yr that is.

[Containergardener]

Have ordered some MF!

[Scarlet]

It was a good year for roses last year! Except the newly planted ones as they needed a drink.

My roses popped this year and then we had a week of rain
I love roses too.

[Babru]

I've never tried patio roses, but when I've tried other types (not climbers, but Austens and others), I've always found them to be unhappy after two or three years in a pot, despite planting in rose/shrub compost, regular feeding, watering etc. Once I've planted them out in the ground they recover.

I think that in the longer term, trying to improve the growing conditions is the way to go.

[bramble]

Babru, maybe a bigger pot if you really want to keep them in containers.

[Babru]

Good point bramble. The pots weren't small, maybe 18" across the top, but I expect bigger would be better, just makes moving them around difficult.

At the time I had a small garden which had no room to plant more roses, but I've got a big empty garden now. I brought a Lady Emma Hamilton with me in its pot (handy to have had things already in pots when you move!), it was looking terrible, despite new soil etc. In the ground last September, looks a million dollars now.

[Containergardener]

My Handel rose that's struggled

I've dug it out as I needed to weed out ground elder, currently now in water.

So whatl I do?
In a pot , see how it goes with MF and compost
Or back in with MF and compost

Any thoughts greatly appreciated, think I get 1 or 2 flowers if lucky.

[nickdub]

I'd put it in the ground if possible - if it does recover you might want to try taking cuttings from it.

In the meanwhile the various supermarkets and cheapo shops often have a roses for a few pounds, so you might want to keep an eye on them and see if any of those takes your fancy.

[Containergardener]

Thanks, will do. How should i take cuttings, not tried roses before.