What sleepers?

[mrbadexample]

What's a spade?.....................

One of those things that you use to get the turf off where you want to grow things.

[Bigmallly]

What's a spade?.....................

[mrbadexample]

If you want something to last forever, how about bricks, you can get some nice ones these days. You'd only need 2 courses................

The first time I levered a spade against them they'd fall apart. Plus I can't lay bricks very well.

[Bigmallly]

If you want something to last forever, how about bricks, you can get some nice ones these days. You'd only need 2 courses................

[mrbadexample]

Having read a fair bit about how tanalised softwood ain't that good when in direct contact with the ground, I've bitten the bullet and gone for new green oak sleepers. I hope the cost proves worth it.

Anyone fancy coming to give me a hand to move the buggers? I'll sort you out a nice bit of cake, and tea / coffee / beer / rhubarb vodka according to your preference.

[mrbadexample]

...older timbers I personally wouldn't touch with a barge pole, especially those that have been actually used on a railway.

Nor me. Definitely looking for new.

[mrbadexample]

How long will oak last for? New Untreated Railway Sleepers | Buy New Untreated Oak Sleeper Online | UK Sleepers

[mrbadexample]

How long is... forever... how old are you?

48 so 50 years would be good. If they need replacing when I'm 98 I can live with that.

[Potstubsdustbins]

New treated sleepers are fine they stopped using nasty's in the early 2000s, older timbers I personally wouldn't touch with a barge pole, especially those that have been actually used on a railway.

[polc1410]

Hardwood lasts longer than soft.

Treated lasts longer than untreated.

BUT treated **may** leach its treating "stuff" into the soil of raised bed and hence into plant.

You might get round that with a liner of some description... like a black plastic membrane to stop the soil being in contact. But doing that might also prolong the life of the wood which is why you are treating...

How long is... forever... how old are you?

[mrbadexample]

Afternoon all.

I need about 10 sleepers to make my new raised beds. Question is, which ones to get? Softwood or hardwood, treated or untreated?

They must last for approximately forever.

My initial thoughts would be untreated hardwood, although that is a bit on the pricey side. How good are the treated softwood ones?

Cheers,
MBE