Info on Elstar, Jonagold, Abate Fetel, Morello trees

[Faughan]

My allotments are closing down and need to move all my stuff asap. I bought several bare rooted fruit trees approx 2 years ago that I would love to keep. I have been searching information on much tall they will grow, if they are self pollinators (at the allotments there are lots of fruit trees so it wasn't a problem), etc. and got mixed information.

Does any one grow... Elstar apple, Jonagold apple, Abate Fetel pear and Morello cherry trees? How tall they are? Do they self-pollinate?

Thanks in advance!

[veggiechicken]

Do you know what rootstock they're on?

[Guest]

Or where you got them from?

[Faughan]

Do you know what rootstock they're on?

Hi! I have no idea. I bought them at B&M and Lidl.

[Faughan]

Or where you got them from?

The Abate Fetel pear tree is from Lidl. I bought it as a younger tree, not a bareroot.

The Cherry Morello trees were bought as bare roots from B&M. They have only few cherries on it, but they are in pots.

The Elstar apple tree was bought as bare root from B&M. It has lots of apples, it's unreal because is not taller than me.

The Jonasgold apple tree was bought as bare root from B&M and doesn't have any apples, but it does look very healthy.

Hope it helps.

[Guest]

Well I am not a lot of cop - sorry.
Unfortunately I have never had much joy with Lidl customer service so no telling what rootstock they are on and I have never used B&M hopefully some other grapes will be along soon who might have a clue.

[veggiechicken]

Here are a couple of threads where we'v tried to find out the rootstocks for Aldi and Other's fruit trees. May give you some idea what to expect!
http://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gra...ldi_83407.html
http://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gra...ees_88088.html

[veggiechicken]

The Abate Fetel pear tree is from Lidl. I bought it as a younger tree, not a bareroot.

http://www.keepers-nursery.co.uk/fruit-trees/pear/mid-season-eating-pear/abbe-fetel needs a pollinator

The Cherry Morello trees were bought as bare roots from B&M. They have only few cherries on it, but they are in pots.
http://www.keepers-nursery.co.uk/fruit-trees/cherry/acid/morello Self-fertile

The Elstar apple tree was bought as bare root from B&M. It has lots of apples, it's unreal because is not taller than me.
http://www.keepers-nursery.co.uk/fruit-trees/apple/late-season-eating-apple/elstar Needs a pollinator

The Jonasgold apple tree was bought as bare root from B&M and doesn't have any apples, but it does look very healthy.
http://www.keepers-nursery.co.uk/fruit-trees/apple/late-season-eating-apple/jonagold needs a pollinator
Hope it helps.

Other suppliers are available!

[Jay-ell]

Jonagold is in pollination group 4 and is a triploid (it needs to be polinated ny another apple but cannot polinate other apples)
Elstar in a group 3 self infertile apple - it needs to be ollinated by another apple and can pollinate other apples.
Because they are in flowering groups next to each other the Elstar may pollinate the Jonagold but would not be be pollinated by it.

Any crab apples near by? They're not fussy - they'll do the business with both of them.

[Faughan]

Jonagold is in pollination group 4 and is a triploid (it needs to be polinated ny another apple but cannot polinate other apples)
Elstar in a group 3 self infertile apple - it needs to be ollinated by another apple and can pollinate other apples.
Because they are in flowering groups next to each other the Elstar may pollinate the Jonagold but would not be be pollinated by it.

Any crab apples near by? They're not fussy - they'll do the business with both of them.

Could I graft them with a different variety of apple tree? I have a friend who has crap apples.

[Faughan]

There are only a few cherry trees around here, that's all. Many allotment holders had fruit trees, so I didn't worry about it when I bought them. I wish I had...

[Faughan]

Other suppliers are available!

Thank you. Going to check these links now.

And thanks Norkfolk + other users for their answers.

[Jay-ell]

Its possible to graft multiple varieties onto one rootstock as a Family Tree, but ideally you would want it so each variety can pollinate the others to maximise production.

Grafting them onto another rootstock wouldn't change their flowering group or how they are pollinated. The rootstock controls the vigour and height of the combined tree.

Any crab apple (no matter how bad ) in your street will more than likely be close enough to pollinate both trees. Crab apples flower for longer periods and so can cover most of the flowering groups. The crab apple is used to provide the pollen to fertilise your apples and not as a rootstock. It doesn't have to be in the same garden as long as the bees visit it ans your trees.

[veggiechicken]

Could I graft them with a different variety of apple tree? I have a friend who has crap apples.

Shouldn't laugh.................but I will

[bearded bloke]

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