Max for me was 45 mins. Max for hubby was 2 hrs....such a waste of time....and petrol.
OH used to listen to language tapes on the way into work- and to de-stress music on the way back.
OH used to listen to language tapes on the way into work- and to de-stress music on the way back.




to get to my desk, it takes the 
), to the point I have even taken a panel van, with trailer, through the City, more than once.
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