Query re leccy fencing.

[shirlthegirl43]

To everyone who has electrified fencing for their chooks etc.

Following the theft of our hens, we are considering electrifying the run at night time only if/when we get more girls.

Can anyone confirm the legalese relating to this - am I right in saying so long as it is labelled electrified then anyone getting a belt has to live with it?

[pipscariad]

Hi Shirley, Blimey, I've missed this - you had your hens stolen , how horrible! What kind of low life steals hens, and in Pembrokeshire too, it's not usually somewhere things like that happen. Really, really sorry to hear that.

I can't help in terms of the legalese on this one (although I would have thought that as long as it says it electrified you'd be okay), but I can see why you're considering it. Barstewards.

[shirlthegirl43]

Thanks Pip - Madmax is actually saying it will be 10kv so they will be instafried if they try again!!!! I won't allow that but I think a good kick in the wherever is in order.

[jojo2910]

We've just put one up and it came with a big yellow sign. The people who sold it to us, along with our ladies never mentioned anything in relation to legalities. The OH says anyone who gets hit and doesn't read the sign gets what the deserve. We've heard nothing but good things about the fences in relation to chickens. Ours is only 2 weeks old but we are hopeful. Good luck.

[shirlthegirl43]

Sounds good thanks. Ours won't be to keep the chooks in - it will be on at night only to keep any ruddy burglars out!!!!!!! The worst thing is that whoever nicked them had to cross neighbouring garden(s) to reach ours!!

[Scarlet]

Our electric fence is a poultry one, the current comes in pulses. I never turn it off and always climb over it, as long as you have trainers on it doesn't give a kick. I don't think it would be good enough, what kind of fence are you looking at?

[its hilly]

Shirl, best place to find out would be defra I think.
I know if it's next to a public footpath it MUST have the yellow sign on it.
Your only problem will be hiding the battery or leads so that the sh*** don't just go and switch it off.
Better luck this time..you ought to have a broody goose..my girls gander will see off a mother sheep at the mo, let alone my poor old oh..and god only help tresspassers..they WILL be bitten.

[shirlthegirl43]

Think hubby is sort of considering electrifying the weldmesh that makes the run!!!! Soo cross at having the girls nicked!

[shirlthegirl43]

We are well away from footpaths or indeed anywhere that people other than guests to the garden can go. the scum must have crossed at least one garden before reaching ours! At the moment the plan is to put a hefty chain round the shed they were taken from with an alarmed padlock. The chain will be either coachbolted or U-bolted to the shed so they can't slip it past the door. Electrifying the run wire is another possibility - with the warning sign in the garden rather than facing the neighbours.

[its hilly]

Shirl, best place to find out would be defra I think.
I know if it's next to a public footpath it MUST have the yellow sign on it.
Your only problem will be hiding the battery or leads so that the sh*** don't just go and switch it off.
Better luck this time..you ought to have a broody goose..my girls gander will see off a mother sheep at the mo, let alone my poor old oh..and god only help tresspassers..they WILL be bitten.

[Glutton4...]

I daren't touch mine - trainers or not! It BLIMMIN hurts.

I stepped over a low part once, and caught it on my inner thigh - no thanks - I'll walk the extra few metres and turn the chuffin' thing off, ta.

I'm sure it's legal, as long as you have the sign on. Otherwise it wouldn't be so readily available, and it wouldn't have the signs!

[shirlthegirl43]

I daren't touch mine - trainers or not! It BLIMMIN hurts.

I stepped over a low part once, and caught it on my inner thigh - no thanks - I'll walk the extra few metres and turn the chuffin' thing off, ta.

I'm sure it's legal, as long as you have the sign on. Otherwise it wouldn't be so readily available, and it wouldn't have the signs!

Grand - so long as we have the sign (IN the garden) then they are warned,. The fact that it is 10kv and runs from the mains won't matter :-D (you may indeed interpret that I am extremely cross about my chooks)

[Potstubsdustbins]

Shirl, sorry to hear you lost your chooks.

But you are not talking of a 12 volt purpose made chook fence but running a 240 volt supply from the mains to the shed. This has the potential to seriously harm or kill the lowlife (damn good thing in my view). But a VERY BIG BUT the police would not see it this way, sign or no sign it would be seen as a `man trap` and if someone did get hurt and made a complaint guess who would end up in court on serious criminal charges.
Plus the scumbags would be able to use civil law to sue for damages.

Please consider carefully and take legal advice before going down this road. As an example game keepers use to use a trip wire device that set off a blank 12 bore cartridge as an alarm against poachers. They have been banned as if the poacher was to close they might well suffer slight burns.

Don't get me wrong I would love to see the swine wriggling on the end of the wire, but I fear you would end up the loser.

Colin

[bearded bloke]

PTD,I think there is some confusion here,reading Shirls last post I would think she means to use a mains powered transformer (switchable from inside the house) rather than a battery powered one which are all to easy to disconnect.
Shirl I will check for you when a little more awake (and can find my book) what the electrical wiring regulations are for leccy fences

[shirlthegirl43]

Shirl, sorry to hear you lost your chooks.

But you are not talking of a 12 volt purpose made chook fence but running a 240 volt supply from the mains to the shed. This has the potential to seriously harm or kill the lowlife (damn good thing in my view). But a VERY BIG BUT the police would not see it this way, sign or no sign it would be seen as a `man trap` and if someone did get hurt and made a complaint guess who would end up in court on serious criminal charges.
Plus the scumbags would be able to use civil law to sue for damages.

Please consider carefully and take legal advice before going down this road. As an example game keepers use to use a trip wire device that set off a blank 12 bore cartridge as an alarm against poachers. They have been banned as if the poacher was to close they might well suffer slight burns.

Don't get me wrong I would love to see the swine wriggling on the end of the wire, but I fear you would end up the loser.

Colin

Cheers for your comments Colin - while very tempted to quick fry any scumbags trying the same again, I am quite aware that the police would not be on my side!

PTD,I think there is some confusion here,reading Shirls last post I would think she means to use a mains powered transformer (switchable from inside the house) rather than a battery powered one which are all to easy to disconnect.
Shirl I will check for you when a little more awake (and can find my book) what the electrical wiring regulations are for leccy fences

That's right BB - indoors so they can't switch it off to nick any more chooks. We used to have one like that at the farm when I was a kid and we always used to forget to switch the ruddy thing off!