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  • #31
    Well- to be diplomatic.....

    I can't see any harm in cutting down with meat intake - in the UK we consume far too much on a daily basis- it's supposed to be 4oz per day- any more is wasted. Here in France they- and now we- eat a lot less. A smaller leg of lamb is enough for 8-12 peeps in a main course. Seems sensible to me.
    I'm more than happy to eat less meat ...as part of my contribution.
    It seems daft to eat more than the body requires just out of habit. Maybe the quality of those animals for meat would be improved if they're not being so intensively farmed???

    Of course governments across the Globe need to do their bit too.
    "Nicos, Queen of Gooooogle" and... GYO's own Miss Marple

    Location....Normandy France

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    • #32
      That's a good point Nicos, and excess protein in the diet does contribute to weight problems. However Comma... We don't eat loads of meat anyway, because we go for the locally produced stuff and pay more for it, it has to go further. I think lots of folks on here do the same - 3-4 meals from a chicken or other weekend roast, and slow cooked cheaper cuts bulked out with pulses and veggies. For my part, I can't say it's an environmental choice though, more an animal welfare and, financial choice.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by RuthC View Post
        Among the reasons for his view is that methane emitted from pigs and cows is a significant component of greenhouse gases.
        I don't think these even begin to replace the enormous herds of buffalo that roamed the American prairies "as far as the eye can see".

        I couldn't answer any of them as the wrong questions are being asked, as in many polls.
        Last edited by JanieB; 03-11-2009, 12:42 PM.
        "I prefer rogues to imbeciles as they sometimes take a rest" (Alexander Dumas)
        "It is neccessary to have wished for death in order to know how good it is to live" (also Alexandre Dumas)
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        • #34
          I've not voted either!
          To save me waffling just read what Sarz has put for my opinion,just adding that my beliefs are that we should start making more "use" of wild meat.Thousands of smaller wild animals are culled each year... perfectly edible,but because as a nation we seem to turn our noses up to eating them,they're just buried/burnt/wasted!Rabbit is probably our most frequently eaten meat...mainly because I know it's had a happy & natural life & diet,also it's far cheaper than a lot of free range alternatives...often free!...and also it's pretty darned tasty!!!

          I can't say my reasons for chosing free range/local meat was based upon concern for the environment but I guess if it helps it can't be a bad thing.
          the fates lead him who will;him who won't they drag.

          Happiness is not having what you want,but wanting what you have.xx

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          • #35
            It seems to me that everywhere we turn we are invited to sign a petition or tick or untick boxes for some survey. Does anyone ever take any notice of the conclusion, if it ever can be conclusive.
            What I would like to know is whether HOT AIR is a contributory factor to the world's problems.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Brengirl View Post
              It seems to me that everywhere we turn we are invited to sign a petition or tick or untick boxes for some survey. Does anyone ever take any notice of the conclusion, if it ever can be conclusive.
              What I would like to know is whether HOT AIR is a contributory factor to the world's problems.
              Thats it then the Hot air balloons got to be banned then....jacob
              What lies behind us,And what lies before us,Are tiny matters compared to what lies Within us ...
              Ralph Waide Emmerson

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              • #37
                Meat consumption

                Originally posted by Nicos View Post
                .... it's supposed to be 4oz per day- any more is wasted. ......
                I didn't know that!

                Originally posted by SarzWix View Post
                That's a good point Nicos, and excess protein in the diet does contribute to weight problems. However Comma... We don't eat loads of meat anyway, because we go for the locally produced stuff and pay more for it, it has to go further. I think lots of folks on here do the same - 3-4 meals from a chicken or other weekend roast, and slow cooked cheaper cuts bulked out with pulses and veggies. For my part, I can't say it's an environmental choice though, more an animal welfare and, financial choice.
                And I agree with that!

                With regard to meat consumption, I was taught that 4oz meat was a portion size for a main meal, thus a pound of mince fed a family of four.

                But it's not that surprising that we are eating more than that - when we went metric, the pack sizes went up to 500g - a 10% increase on a 1lb pack - and if you look at chops or chicken breasts (for example) today, they are much more likely to by 6 - 8 oz per portion than 4oz.
                Last edited by Hazel at the Hill; 03-11-2009, 02:05 PM.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Brengirl View Post
                  It seems to me that everywhere we turn we are invited to sign a petition or tick or untick boxes for some survey. Does anyone ever take any notice of the conclusion, if it ever can be conclusive.
                  What I would like to know is whether HOT AIR is a contributory factor to the world's problems.
                  Every time you tick a box on a survey - a fairy dies. That's what I tell those market researchers when they stop me in the street.

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                  • #39
                    Like the others I think maybe there should have been other options offered on the poll although I ticked the vegetarian already option (but it's not really because of climate change) & as I still eat fish sometimes I'm not strictly veggie. I think the magazine is probably aiming to say we all grow & eat our own veg. & maybe do/will eat less meat for the sake of the environment but the poll has been rather slewed that way. I'm so sick of all the different theories which are put up & then shot down that I just try to do my best to personally have as little impact as possible in a detrimental way but have no idea what the ultimate solution is & will probably be long dead before anyone decides what we should all be doing! I thought the ad. about developing algae as a biofuel sounded promising & then read that as the algae need a lot of light & water to grow the developers plan to grow it in huge ponds in hot countries which would lead to water being pumped in from surrounding areas thus taking needed water supplies from nearby. I give up!
                    Into every life a little rain must fall.

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                    • #40
                      i dont believe in climate change its happened in the past when earth warmed up then cooled down again
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                      • #41
                        I haven't voted because none of the available options is suitable.

                        I eat meat because my ancestors did, and that's how I've evolved.
                        I believe climate change is a natural part of this planet's cycle.
                        I'm sure one of the extremist nutters will cause the destruction of this planet long before the next major extreme temperature swing makes a difference.

                        In my opinion!
                        All the best - Glutton 4 Punishment
                        Freelance shrub butcher and weed removal operative.

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                        • #42
                          Slightly off topic, but isnt being vegetarian actually a HEALTHIER option than eating meat?
                          Considering what is pumped into animals before they are slaughtered and placed in completely unbiodegradable little boxes, I think I would rather take my chances without meat anyway.
                          However if the issue is the methane gas omitted from bovines etc, then you would have to be vegan to make any difference....I like a splash of milk in my cuppa thanks

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                          • #43
                            Vegetable waste also emits methane gas . I saw on a programme that a tomato grower in this country is using the methane gas given off from wasted veg to heat his greenhouses and the carbon dioxide given off by burning the methane is pumped in for the plants to absorb. His production had gone up tremendously so perhaps we should be looking at ways to utilise waste.
                            S*d the housework I have a lottie to dig
                            a batch of jam is always an act of creation ..Christine Ferber

                            You can't beat a bit of garden porn

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by zazen999 View Post
                              Every time you tick a box on a survey - a fairy dies. That's what I tell those market researchers when they stop me in the street.
                              Like it!
                              My Majesty made for him a garden anew in order
                              to present to him vegetables and all beautiful flowers.- Offerings of Thutmose III to Amon-Ra (1500 BCE)

                              Diversify & prosper


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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Glutton4... View Post
                                I'm sure one of the extremist nutters will cause the destruction of this planet long before the next major extreme temperature swing makes a difference.

                                In my opinion!
                                I read my OH my post for this thread, and he said disparagingly 'You sound like an extremist nutter.'

                                'Oh, I though it was just a well reasoned but passionate response...'

                                Please note fellow Grapes: I'm not an extremist nutter, I promise. I'm quite nice really.

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