Cats and bad owners

[SarzWix]

I'm afraid I'm Gettting Older now...I'm not sure I have the range to p*ss on a cat.

Hahahahahahahahahaha, that made me laugh so hysterically that my kids now think I've lost my marbles

[daleclarke]

If you use a cat being outside as proof that's it's been abandonned then presumably you're going to be on the phone to the NSPCC every time you see a child playing outside as by your argument, this must be a sign of bad parenting!!!!!

Only if they are causing damage to my Garden or pooing all over my Veg Beds. Also it is against the law to leave children alone under 13, so not a valid point, as I at least have some protection in a legal sense, I have none against bad Cat owners...

As a animal lover, I feel if you have to leave an animal unattended all day, you should not have one. The again I am against trophy kids as well!!!

We have a dog nearby that howls all day and cry's every now and again, it really is sad to hear!

I will try the soaker and Urine, sorry vinegar, as Urine goes on the compost heap!

[Madasafish]

Cats own humans and let them roam unattended all day.

[Alison]

Is it OK to leave my rabbit alone all day or should I bring it to work with me?

[Nicos]

Is it OK to leave my rabbit alone all day or should I bring it to work with me?

No- take it to work- it'll love running round the room chewing pieces of paper and ripping off wallpaper and peeing on chairs...until it's house-trained!!

[SarzWix]

Only if they are causing damage to my Garden or pooing all over my Veg Beds. Also it is against the law to leave children alone under 13, so not a valid point, as I at least have some protection in a legal sense, I have none against bad Cat owners...

As a animal lover, I feel if you have to leave an animal unattended all day, you should not have one. The again I am against trophy kids as well!!!

We have a dog nearby that howls all day and cry's every now and again, it really is sad to hear!

I will try the soaker and Urine, sorry vinegar, as Urine goes on the compost heap!

Sorry, I'm going to be pedantic here Dale, but it's not actually illegal to leave kids alone at any age!
From the Guardian;

After seeking guidance from legal experts, I soon discover why. There are no fixed legal ages governing many major parental decisions. There are, however, laws defining certain parental duties and responsibilities that provide pointers on these matters.
While the law relating to children varies slightly in England and Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland, it is a common tenet that parents have a responsibility to protect children under 16 from harm. Parents can be prosecuted for neglect for leaving their children unattended, should they come to harm or be injured, or if the child is deemed to have been left in danger.

But when it comes to the crunch, it is down to a parent's judgment to decide when it is safe to leave a child under 16 without adult supervision. The NSPCC offers the following advice: "Parents need to make decisions based on considerations such as the age, maturity and wishes of the child or young person, the duration of absence, and the ease with which they can respond in an emergency."

Hope the squirter works for your cat problems though

[MrsC]

[QUOTE=SarzWix;208174]Sorry, I'm going to be pedantic here Dale, but it's not actually illegal to leave kids alone at any age!


Quite right SarzWix, take 2 children at 13 years of age, both very different. You could have a 13 year old who is more mature than an 18 year old! Sorry, Dale but what you quoted is wrong.

[daleclarke]

[quote=mrsc2b;208442]

Sorry, I'm going to be pedantic here Dale, but it's not actually illegal to leave kids alone at any age!


Quite right SarzWix, take 2 children at 13 years of age, both very different. You could have a 13 year old who is more mature than an 18 year old! Sorry, Dale but what you quoted is wrong.

I might be wrong about the age part but tnot the law. This is the official line.

The law does not set a minimum age at which children can be left alone. However, it is an offence to leave a child alone when doing so puts him or her at risk.

And talking to my Social Services they would see a 13 year old as being at risk!

So part right, part wrong. The 13 came into it as I remember not being allowed to babysit when I was younger because of it. Uncle was a Bobby...

[janeyo]

Do the owners know it howls all day? My dog used to and I had no idea til someone told me. he was much happier in the school holidays and of course when we were home - no noise.

Maybe you could tell them?Maybe it needs therapy?

janeyo

[janeyo]

and they love telephone wires too!

janeyo

[MrsC]

[QUOTE=daleclarke;208484]

I might be wrong about the age part but tnot the law. This is the official line.

The law does not set a minimum age at which children can be left alone. However, it is an offence to leave a child alone when doing so puts him or her at risk.

And talking to my Social Services they would see a 13 year old as being at risk!

So part right, part wrong. The 13 came into it as I remember not being allowed to babysit when I was younger because of it. Uncle was a Bobby...

Of course the law does not state a specific age, but you did quote the age 13and not relating to babysitting in your post re this, maybe I read this wrong or you didn't explain fully in your 1st post. Yes, it is an offence if it puts a child at risk, that's just parental commonsense though isn't it? Can I ask a question re your post, did you actually ring your Social Services to check, just a thought, because they should all have the same policies and procedures (in line with law) maybe I'm wrong. Just when completing my training with 'my Social Services' child protection etc etc etc I was led to believe that there weren't regional variations regarding the law, maybe I'm wrong. Btw I work with children for what that's worth. Anyway, thought this was a thread about cats?

[daleclarke]

Yes I rang as I needed to get it into my own mind what was right. When you wrote your last message I thought I check further and what I was advised originally was their stance, but they said there was some new national guidelines being implemented.

[daleclarke]

Do the owners know it howls all day? My dog used to and I had no idea til someone told me. he was much happier in the school holidays and of course when we were home - no noise.

Maybe you could tell them?Maybe it needs therapy?

janeyo

After a chat yesterday, it seems they do know and there has been complaints about it and the council are involved. It seems it is a large rare breed dog, that has a trait of howling. Alas, the next door neighbour is a shift worker, so you can guess the rest!

[daleclarke]

Vinegar & Supersoaker

Tried it on Sunday, they looked at me puzzled at first and then scarpered. Nevertheless, they returned when not around as I found presents in the Fruit patch, so will try chilli powder as advised elsewhere.

As it was Sunday got talking to neighbours and one old dear said her own Cat cannot now leave her garden due to the amount of other cats around, so maybe self policing (Cats I mean) is coming to the fore, I live in hope

[markwcel]

i just let my dog loose in the garden all day...then the cats come in at night and crap everywhere