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  • Bordeaux or Burgundy yeast for elderberry?

    Just starting some elderberry and have sachets of both of these available. Being a relative newbie to the art of winemaking, I'm not sure which would be best for an elderberry wine? Anyone help?

    And also, do i use the whole sachet (5g) for a demijohn's worth of the wine?

    thanks

  • #2
    elderberry tends to be a pretty strong wine: I use a port (dessert red) yeast
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Scottishnewbie View Post
      do i use the whole sachet (5g) for a demijohn's worth of the wine?
      It should tell you on the packet, that it makes up to 5 gallons of wine.

      I use a quarter pack for each gallon, it's easier to guess than fifths
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      • #4
        thanks TS. Dont have a dessert yeast though.....so would you go bordeaux or burgundy?

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        • #5
          doesn't matter does it?

          Although: I used a normal red wine yeast on two different batches of elderberry, and in both cases the high sugar content killed the yeast. That's why I now use a port yeast
          Last edited by Two_Sheds; 15-10-2010, 06:04 PM.
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          • #6
            and this wine making malarkey is supposed to be easy?!?!?!?!?!

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            • #7
              Nah...the only easy bit is the drinking!!!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Scottishnewbie View Post
                and this wine making malarkey is supposed to be easy?!?!?!?!?!
                It's not easy until you've done it a few times. Then it is, honest

                The easiest one to start off with is Shirl's Fruit Tea Bag Wine.
                Last edited by Two_Sheds; 15-10-2010, 07:20 PM.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Two_Sheds View Post
                  doesn't matter does it?

                  Although: I used a normal red wine yeast on two different batches of elderberry, and in both cases the high sugar content killed the yeast. That's why I now use a port yeast
                  One way round that is to add the sugar in stages.

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                  • #10
                    I recommend using a Port yeast. Once the initial fermentation has almost completed and you have racked it off either into another demijohn or bottles, you can get a second run, albiet not so strong as the first one. Add the same amount of sugar to the lees or less if you want a dryer wine, and this time use a Burgundy yeast.

                    Hope all goes well.
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                    • #11
                      I am currently fermenting a batch of elderberry (2 demijohns) and have used Burgundy yeast - it appears to be working well, and if fermented to dryness should produce a brew at around 15%. However, one demijohn will be used for making elderberry port, so I don't mind if the resulting brew stops at 12 to 14% and retains a bit of sweetness as it's going to get mixed with some brandy in the end. Hope that helps
                      Last edited by Skotch; 22-10-2010, 12:40 PM.
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