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    return of aminopyralid?

    Hi all
    I have 16 tomato plants in a raised bed in my greenhouse
    They are all showing signs of aminopyralid :-(

    I didn't have problems last year - I did top up the bed this year from a local supplier of a mix of black fenland soil and well-rotted horse manure (Denise's Delight!)

    I'm pretty sure this must be the problem - however

    I also used the DD to top up potato bags - the first 8" in each potato bag was from a previous load of DD - then I topped up to near the top with the new (possibly contaminated) batch. The potato plants are NOT showing any signs of contamination

    Any thoughts on this? I'd've thought that if the tomatoes reacted, so would the potatoes? Any other ideas on what I might have done with the tomatoes? I haven't yet fed them this year...

    Before I go really nag the supplier, I'd like to check if this is their problem, or if I might have done something (the potatoes look very healthy!)

    many thanks for any suggestions
    Salilah
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    Have you got a piccy Salilah before you jump the gun.
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    • #3
      I assume you mean the leaves are curling and rolling in? If you have a look hereit may help you decide if it's herbicide or too much fertiliser/water/heat/cold/damage etc
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      • #4
        If it's the dreaded AM it usually affects everything.

        Post a pic please.
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        • #5
          Will get a pic later
          And yes, it's possible it is not - which is why I'm checking!
          Also, I'm pretty sure I put a 1" layer of the DD on the bed the climbing french beans are in, and they are not showing anything, and I think they are very sensitive?

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          • #6


            OK quick update
            Here's a photo (doing one only to check size)

            Most but not all of the tomatoes are showing the same symptoms
            More confusingly, one of the chills is also curling and the edge of the leaf is very dry
            Even more confusingly, I have one tomato plant still in its original compost (multipurpose) grown in from seed, which hasn't been near the DD, and is also showing the symptoms!

            I'll post the other photos once I've checked this one (think it is too big)
            cheers
            Sali
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            • #7
              More photos

              Here are the next batch of the photos - the tomatoes in the bed
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              • #8
                and more photos

                And the next batch of photos

                Number 8 is the tomato still in it's baby pot

                Number 9 is the chilli - the only one starting to curl, and it is curling a bit differently (from the end)

                Number 10 shows the size of the tomatoes in the bed, and that the older leaves are all fine

                Any thoughts?
                thanks!!
                Sali
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                • #9
                  Looks like a mineral deficiency to me,are you feeding them & how often are you watering ??
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                  • #10
                    Not feeding as yet - watering 60mins a day on a drip system (Hozelock)
                    I'll nip down and feed now!
                    thanks

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                    • #11
                      I've never used a drip irrigation but how much water does that equate to?

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                      • #12
                        The test for AM:-
                        Two pots suspect compost/manure mix in one, "safe" garden soil in other.
                        Plant two runner beans - one in each pot.
                        Water and care for in same way and wait and see.
                        It will be very clear by the time the beans are on their second true leaves whether it's AM.
                        My aunt had something similar last year but when we really looked at what was going on we thought it was more likely to have been spray drift into her GH by someone who had been less than careful, especially as the plants then grew away from the problem.

                        If you search on here there is lots of information - I did think there was a sticky on one of the forums but can't find it.
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                        • #13
                          Was it this one Marchogaeth? http://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gra...ure_39626.html

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                          • #14
                            I knew you'd track it down! You must have infinite patience if it's the search on this forum you use!

                            Anyway, it was the thread with the link to Realfood's blog which has the test on it.


                            PS What what else was nice was I thought Realfood haven't seen their name for a bit but I checked and s/he is still active, it's just me not registering - so thanks RF.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by WendyC View Post
                              I've never used a drip irrigation but how much water does that equate to?
                              Hi WendyC
                              I'm not sure! Not enough for the bed to be particularly wet - I have the tomatoes in a line down the bed near the back, and basil and marigolds along the front, and they need a manual watering once a week to keep going...
                              It's a 13mm pipeline, with about 8 of the 0-40lph sprinklers on the line - I don't think they are running at full - and normal hose pressure?
                              cheers
                              Sali

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