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    I've just donated to Hugh Furry-Whistlebum's VegPower crowdfunder to get kids to eat more veg. Anyone else done this or plan to?
    Location - Leicestershire - Chisit-land
    Endless wonder.

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    I haven't but I will have a look to see what he's up to.

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    • #3
      Interesting question MH.
      I had a web mooch and to be honest there's not that much info on how that would be achieved.
      If there's another explanatory site please add so we can have a look.

      My problem with all of this is - it's great to get the little critters to eat veg at school but with so many meals at home will the parents follow this trend? Are they planning on teaching the parents?

      I was bought up on veg as were my kids who have passed it on to their kids. And, yes my 3 year old GD eats sprouts, parsnips,cabbage and radish.

      Now, it seems to me that kids are taught/trained/encouraged by the important oldies in their lives so is a scheme like this really viable?

      I really hope so but ducks for cover none the less!
      I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. Thomas A. Edison

      Outreach co-ordinator for the Gnome, Pixie and Fairy groups within the Nutters Club.

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      • #4
        I'd not heard about Vegpower and I'm a bit like Lumpy - sceptical about the effectiveness of it as its the parents that need to change their buying habits first..

        Veg Power ad campaign launched

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        • #5
          I'm kind of with you on this Lumpy, unfortunately it's a trend I see so often at work (I'm a dentist) that trends tend to run in families. So many times I've had kids in recognising posters on healthy eating and oral hygiene "we've done that at school", "Mrs suchabody said we should brush twice a day" and the parents are non the wiser and are not continuing the teaching and habits at home that the messages ultimately fail, normally until you can get the parents engaged and following through at home.
          Some veg is better than nothing though so at least it's a step in the right direction.

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          • #6
            Well, you're a right bunch of defeatists....

            Location - Leicestershire - Chisit-land
            Endless wonder.

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            • #7
              Not a defeatist, MH, but a sceptic. I don't have kids and can only base my experience on my own upbringing - when burgers didn't exist and the only takeaways were fish and chips. Now, supermarket trolleys are filled with ready meals and junk food and a "treat" seems to a meal out at a Burger bar.
              Its not the kids who do the shopping or the driving.

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              • #8
                Sorry for sounding negative MH, it's a heart in the right place initiative and anything to promote healthy eating is going to be of benefit, but in my experience the problems are more difficult to overcome.
                I try to do a fair amount of diet advice and pretty much daily will be sitting with a parent and child discussing healthy eating in general and with a dental bias also. The most common reasons I come across for kids not having a balanced diet with plenty fresh cooked fruit and veg are -

                Time - "we're too busy to cook from scratch, it's much quicker to bung something in the oven"

                Cost - "do you know how much it would cost to feed our lot with all this fruit and veg"

                Diet preference - "I don't like much fruit or veg so I just don't buy it in because it'll go to waste"

                These are the biggest hurdles I have when trying to get families on to a more balanced diet and it is a daily struggle to get many people to change quite a lot in their way of life.

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                • #9
                  I actually think its too late for several reasons -
                  The cookery lessons at schools are if, there at all at the bottom of the list compared to other subjects.
                  The TV channels tend to show programmes that only deal with the most expensive ingrediants.
                  Take a ways have now become a norm rather than a treat. In Lincoln’s lower High St there are 22 of them. Yes, i counted.
                  Tubby kids are always featured whilst those of the so called normal weights don’t make for such good viewing.
                  Untill the counsels, retail outlets, huge corporations and nationsl governments take the burger by the horn nothing will change.
                  I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. Thomas A. Edison

                  Outreach co-ordinator for the Gnome, Pixie and Fairy groups within the Nutters Club.

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                  • #10
                    Since Jamie Oliver is on the Rich List, maybe he should contribute to this Crowd funding campaign.
                    https://www.therichest.com/celebnetw...ver-net-worth/

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                    • #11
                      Now if it was a campaign to create healthy, affordable, appealing, long life snacks (what is exciting about cue slices and carrot sticks) that replaced the junk grandparents buy, schools reward with (despite sending letter after letter home about healthy eating) and people use to celebrate with (think it's my birthday, here have some sweets and cake). Yes it is not just a battle with parents there is a whole host of bad influences including ones that are disguised! However, just to point out I would rather my girls eat junk than starve (my oldest has said several times her diet is meat and choc despite loving to grow and harvest veggies)

                      I could rant a bit more but there is no one way to deal with unhealthy diets, but well done that man for trying. As long as the opportunities are there.

                      Edit: just an example my girls love smoothie melts https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-G...ucts/273925110 (yes that is .60p for 6grams) now for .59p you can by a 12x20g pack of assorted crisps https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-G...ucts/257429508 (other supermakets available). Which to a 'Mum on a budget' seems like the more likely option. Rant definitely finished now.
                      Last edited by Norfolkgrey; 14-05-2018, 07:24 PM.

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                      • #12
                        I totally agree with NG.
                        Throught history there has been an almost obsessive condemnation of us tubbies.
                        I understand that health and therefore cost to the NHS us a major concern but eating disorders go far beyong the puzza and burger realm.
                        Anorexics and bulemics (?) are apparently influenced by the media.
                        The media has alot to answer for but it is not a new issue as even Wallace Simpson made a quote in the 1930s that you could never be too rich or too thin.
                        I really hope a few kids learn to love veg and in time teach theirs or others around them the benefits.
                        We cant change human nature of the ‘quick fix’ just hope others buck the trend till others see the benefits.

                        Ok nuff said.....off my soap box but ta MH for bringing this to light.
                        I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. Thomas A. Edison

                        Outreach co-ordinator for the Gnome, Pixie and Fairy groups within the Nutters Club.

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                        • #13
                          If you want a fix for this problem try my mothers 1910 (the year she was born) approach.

                          I would be about 8 (1954) when I decided I no longer liked the veg that came with my Sunday dinner and left on the side of my plate.

                          Monday morning breakfast saw the same plate with cold veg and gravy served and I was left with the absolute certainty there would be nothing else served until I had eaten it.

                          I held out till tea time, gave in and ate the mess and listened to the lecture about how hard my mother and father worked to put food on the table.

                          Problem solved never left anything again.

                          As to celebrity chefs they will not see a penny of my money they only get involved to promote they own selves and most of the time they are just wrong.

                          Jamie Oliver ranting about sugar, Jamie its not sugar that makes you fat it's lack of exercise plain and simple............
                          Potty by name Potty by nature.

                          By appointment of VeggieChicken Member of the Nutters club.


                          We hang petty thieves and appoint great ones to public office.

                          Aesop 620BC-560BC

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                          • #14
                            Potty, we grew up in different times - sweets were still on ration when we were young 'uns.. Chocolate was for Easter and Christmas. We weren't bombarded with the fast food ads because there was no TV. Supermarkets didn't exist - we didn't even have a fridge. So everything was bought fresh or grown.
                            I know the "youngsters" will be thinking "here she goes again" but its true, what you don't know, you don't miss. When life was simpler and not commercialised you didn't need "celebrities" to tell you how to eat (and write books or be on TV earning mega fees to promote it).
                            Sorry if I sound jaded but I'm with Potty - just waiting for the Jamie All liver book to appear at some astronomical price.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Potstubsdustbins View Post
                              If you want a fix for this problem try my mothers 1910 (the year she was born) approach.

                              I would be about 8 (1954) when I decided I no longer liked the veg that came with my Sunday dinner and left on the side of my plate.

                              Monday morning breakfast saw the same plate with cold veg and gravy served and I was left with the absolute certainty there would be nothing else served until I had eaten it.

                              I held out till tea time, gave in and ate the mess and listened to the lecture about how hard my mother and father worked to put food on the table.

                              Problem solved never left anything again.
                              Been there, had that
                              it may be a struggle to reach the top, but once your over the hill your problems start.

                              Member of the Nutters Club but I think I am just there to make up the numbers

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