Who is growing organic/ non organic/ partial?

**Snadger** · 03-09-2008, 07:18 PM

I try to grow organically......use NO weedkillers, no pesticides use organic fertilisers and methods of growing (lots of muck!) but don't buy organically grown seed,

onlly the seed I keep myself is organic!

**Demeter** · 03-09-2008, 07:35 PM

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I want to grow healthy crops in healthy soil with no chemicals added - if that's organic, then count me in.

My reasons
- it just makes sense to me
- I have no aspiration to grow bumper crops of perfect fruit and veg, I'm astonished and amazed to get anything edible at all!
- by inclination I prefer to work with nature rather than trying to bend her to my imperfect will
- I don't want to fill the coffers of chemical manufacturers!
- and more of a personal / spiritual one I suppose, as just the idea of spraying chemicals on the earth would feel very wrong to me, at quite a deep level.

Even so, I think we probably all have to compromise somewhere (at least those of us with day jobs to go to!)

For me it's not so much chemicals, it's more about where I get things from. Stuff can be got the earth-friendly way (beg, borrow, steal, recycle, rescue from skip, make, mend, tinker, rig, fix up) or the easy way (buy new) - I've done a bit of both, and also used lots of plastic which certainly isn't very earth friendly... We do what we can do, I guess.

**FB.** · 03-09-2008, 07:42 PM

Even "organic" fruit and veg are allowed certain chemicals.

We do our best to maintain a no-spray policy.
Between choosing varietes best suited to our local condition and with good disease tolerance, by encouraging beneficial insects as predators, by removing damaged or diseased material promptly, and by accepting a moderate loss to pests and diseases, we do OK.
As a rough guess, with our no-spray mentality, we lose perhaps 20% to pests -with another 20% slightly damaged and unsuitable for storing- which would be devastating to a commercial enterprise - they'd be loss-making every year.

FB

**firstimer1** · 03-09-2008, 07:58 PM

i like to think wat i grow will be organic the only thing i will use is slug pellets (not sure if still classed organic or not but hope so) the reason being is that i have said 4 years that what we eat has affected the population 2day, thugs, little sh***, an so forth, i truely believe that the food we put in2 our childrens mouths has a lot 2 answer 4

**Hans Mum** · 03-09-2008, 08:03 PM

am organic but do use plastics/imported canes/ & unfortunately have had to use pellets sparingly & carefully this year as the slugs are taking over

**firstimer1** · 03-09-2008, 08:05 PM

hey demeter im wiv u i lived in wales 4 4 years an they had no council recycling services wat so ever and i used to save mine up till got car full an trool round the recyclin places to get rid of it, they all thought i was mad over there an i always think buying second hand u get a bargain i very rarely buy new only essensitials if u grt my drift lol

**burnie** · 03-09-2008, 08:28 PM

I use organic methods and have for years in several gardens with mixed results,as someone said , if I was doing it for a living,I'd be bankrupt.I stopped using slug pellets after someone(could have been the RSPB) said they were linked to the loss of Song Thrushes,don't know if it's true.I believe there are "safe" pellets available now,but I'll stick to not using them.

**SarzWix** · 03-09-2008, 09:01 PM

We're partial, I'd say; no chemical fertilisers & no sprays, and use predator insects where possible. But, we do use slug pellets occasionally, under netted areas, because our main problem is snails not slugs and the nematode thing doesn't work on them at all

I've stopped buying plastic weed membrane, and use cardboard plus I've got a roll of degradable stuff to try out. We do seem to use a lot of plastic related things; nets, cane clips, pots etc, but hopefully reusing them a lot will minimise the impact?!
As someone said above, you do what you can, and take responsibility for yourself rather than climbing on a soap-box or getting too self-righteous

**MaureenHall** · 03-09-2008, 09:15 PM

I try very hard not to use chemicals at all, the only pest repellant I use is Garlic Fire Spray, I use nematodes for slugs, and if snails become a big problem I do use the organic pellets or bran. Chicken coop sweepings are put on my compost as an accellerator, and I'm using farmyard manure on the allotment. Yes, I use plastics in the form of netting and weed-suppressant stuff, but like others have said I'll be re-using it for a long time. I don't particularly go for organic seed but grow them on as organically as I can.

**Alice** · 03-09-2008, 09:17 PM

Hello Wren, I'm organic in my way. I don't spray anything, compost everything I can, but I do use slug pellets sparingly and responsibly and won't let the blighters just munch their way through my crops.

**sewer rat** · 03-09-2008, 09:21 PM

I grow as organically as I possibly can, in as much as I use no herbicides or pesticides after sowing or planting out. The only fertiliser I use is animal manure (year 1 cattle, this year, pig slurry, next year, chicken sh*t ).
However, I do have to spray my potatoes for blight as I am surrounded by commercial seed potato merchants, and the man from the Department, he say Spray !
Cam I just point out that where your canes originate from, or whether you use plastic items etc does not mean you are non-organic. Less green maybe, but not non-organic. Do not get the two confused - the Soil Association recently tried to have organic food imported to the UK by air stripped of it's organic label - why ? Just because it is imported by non evironmentally friendly transportation does not make it non organic. Don't get me started on the Soil Association

**zazen999** · 03-09-2008, 09:37 PM

I use Dithane for blight but now't else. I do use the organic slug pellets but they aren't touching the slugs so next year it's nematodes. All the fertilisers I think are organic, but what does that really mean??? I use coffee grounds from *bucks as they give it away but I have no idea where the original coffee came from. I just try not to let unorganic stuff on the plot or the garden; as much as possible. but not at the risk of losing a year's worth of potatoes and tomatoes.

**wiccanlou** · 03-09-2008, 09:41 PM

I am doing my very best to grow organic, I get all my sprays from Just Green : www.just-green.com : Natural Home and Garden Products - Just Green and the pack I just bought is supposed to be organically approved which is good as I have aphids on some of my plants.

**lynda66** · 03-09-2008, 10:01 PM

i use home made and organic fertilizers and pest deterrents, and home made compost, feed slugs to the blackbirds on escape proof trays.

however i also use grow bag compost (cos it's cheap) which presumably has chemicals in, slug pellets to stop the slugs escaping the compost heap, (covered) and the other day i had some fungus stuff on my rose bush and it was developing dodgy leaves so i sprayed it.

i'm growing food to eat not for the slugs or caterpillars, so although i don't want to use too many chemicals, if my veg are at risk of being overrun and eaten, i wouldn't think twice about spraying ....... no point being organic if it means you have no food for yourself.

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