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Old 14-09-2007, 08:09 PM
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I intend to plant some broad beans and peas in October and have read that broad bean The Sutton is suitable to go outside this time of year and that peas can be planted under cloches.
I have bought The Sutton bean and Meteor peas, however the packets states that The Sutton needs to go under cloches and yet there is no mention of covering the peas at all; this is the opposite of what I read.
Anyone out there got any ideas? I live in the south but my allotment is quite close to the coast and prone to strongish winds.
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Old 14-09-2007, 09:49 PM
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Both my peas and beans will be sown without any cloche protection, although I had toyed with sowing the peas in a length of guttering and transplanting later!
I've had good success with Epicure beans sown in Autumn and they even withstood transplanting in spring when I moved them to my newly aquired allotment plot!
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Hi and welcome to the Vine.
I think it all depends firstly on how much space you have? I've tried overwintering both peas and beans and have had mixed results, the ones sown in February often catching up the ones that have taken up space in the ground all winter.
Now I've got to grips a bit more with all this winter veg, I haven't got room for overwintering, so mine will go in in the Spring after the last of the cabbages and celeriacs have been eaten.

I've generally covered mine in fleece, my first lot of peas gradually shrivelled and died left out in the cold but with a mild winter could be OK. The broad beans, I cover until well established - as you say wind can be as much as a problem as cold. I do tend to cover most things anyway because of the dreaded slug.

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I always sow some Aquedulce (the best for over-wintering) bored beans; the crop may only be a fortnight ahead of the spring-sown ones, but it is cheering to see something green in the ground in February. Also, they are more resistant (tougher) to blackfly than the (tender) spring ones.

I MUST remember to stake them though, cos they always get flattened in the gales
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Bored beans! just how I feel when faced with another load of runner beans!
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I would give them some protection, the temp should be fine for them but once they reach a certain height they tend to blow over.

Had my final crop of broad beans a couple of days ago, boiled them lightly and tossed them with some grated celeriac, kohl rabi, lemon juice and extra virgin olive oil. Beautiful!!
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I tried to over-winter The Sutton a few years back. It was a cold winter and several young plants succumbed to the frost, despite lots of fleece and bubble wrap.

I would say try it, but be prepared for some deaths. Do your best to give them protection.

And keep your fingers' crossed!
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