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I've never had much luck with feeding wild birds here at home. Maybe it's a bit too urban and with a few too many cats, or perhaps I've just been doing it wrong! Anyway, I'd like to do better at my lottie. Does anyone have any particular tips? Are the 'fancy' feed mixes worth it? What sort of feeders work best? Is there anything that's worked really well for you? Or something that turned out to be a waste of time and money? What about nest boxes?

So far I've got some a couple of hanging feeders and one that's designed to be fixed to a tree, plus some Bill Oddie mixes and some fat ball things. I have a fallen tree next to my plot that looks a good possible site for feeders.

Would love to hear what others do.

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SBP suggested putting sultanas out for the birdies, which I now do every morning, and the blackbirds here really go for them!

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I have experimented with all the different feeders, nut holders, fatball holders etc. A lot of loose seed gets knocked to the ground and wasted, or the seed holder doesn't flow properly, and the seed gets wet and goes mouldy or germinates.
My best, most favourite thing now is to make my own: melt some suet in a bowl (plastic Xmas pudding ones are ace). Add seed, sultanas, chopped nuts, oats, whatever. Mix up and freeze. It comes out of the mould easier if its frozen. I then hang that in a cage-type feeder, or you could try freezing a piece of string through the mix and hang it from that. Or just leave it loose on the bird-table.

Blackbirds and thrushes are ground-feeders, so throw some loose sultanas or small grapes down for them.

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When we had more dosh we used to put sunflower hearts out - just about everything ate them, in quantity!!! However a more sensible approach is peanuts for lots of birds, nyger for the goldfinches, some sultanas for the blackies & robbies, also some hanging fat balls for tits & starlings, GS woody and others...

I think one of the important things is, they need somewhere to perch first before coming in for the food. They need some cover to fly away to, but not too near so that puddytats skulk about in it. It may take them some time to become used to the feeder.

Oh and as for type of feeder - the Nuttery ones to keep out the starlings (and only let in smaller birds) don't keep 'em out. If you think you'll have to deal with sqirrels trying to steal the food, then you'll need metal feeders - although I belive they don't like chilli flakes, whereas birds don't mind? An up-turned dustbin lid would make a good birdbath, not too deep to bath in (the birds that is!).

Also as important as food they need water, to drink and to bathe in - I think that there's few things as 'silly' as a bunch of starlings all trying to bathe at the same time.

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Manda.

"Wouldn't it be nice
For maybe an hour
To not have a care."

I'd agree that sunflower hearts are definitely the favourite - seems like I fill that feeder every day! An old apple, cut in half, is also very popular.

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Thanks folks I think (hope!) I'm really lucky in that I have an end plot bordered by brambles, a drainage ditch and large trees. Without making any effort at all, I've seen robins, blackbirds, blue tits and finches on my plot. I also have magpies, wood pigeons and at least one grey squirrel, which I'm marginally less keen on but hey, they're all part of the local ecology.

I like the DIY ideas and am also planning to plant loads of sunflowers (plus JA's, cardoons and artichokes).

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.....and bird bath?

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Manda.

"Wouldn't it be nice
For maybe an hour
To not have a care."

I have peanut feeders and mixed seed feeders hanging from the apple tree, also fat balls. All have been extremely popular with my feathered friends in the past but this winter they've not been emptied at the same rate as usual. I don't know whether it is because the weather has been relatively mild and the birds can find food elsewhere, or what. I leave some apples from the tree in the borders, and the blackbirds love them when they start to go soft and semi-rotten. The blackbirds usually strip the berries off the orange pyracantha in the middle border by January, but this year I have loads of berries left. The blackbirds are still around, cos I've seen them in the garden. Any ideas why?

Yeah... that might be good too I'm off to Google for child friendly options on that!

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It doesn't have to be deep, its best if it isn't as the birds won't use it - would a dustbin lid of water be too hazardous, how small is the little 'un? Or you could treat yourself to a 'traditional' birdbath on a pedestal? (We've got the top of one, bought cheap sans pedestal. Also a couple of ceramic plant saucers from Ikea, cheap at £1 each (they're about 12" square, 1-2" deep).

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Manda.

"Wouldn't it be nice
For maybe an hour
To not have a care."

My wee one is two but it's more my autistic son who'd be a worry That said, I think they'd both be hard pressed to do themselves any real damage in such a shallow amount of water (especially with me having to be pretty vigilant anyway, given all the other potential lottie hazards!).

I might even be tempted to get one of them there posh ones on a stick!

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Ooooh get 'er!

We've got the ceramic saucer at the bottom of the garden, sat on top of a breeze-block! We can't afford no fancy lahdeedah birdbarfs!

- just visible at the bottom of the garden, the nettles aren't ours honest!

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Manda.

"Wouldn't it be nice
For maybe an hour
To not have a care."

I find that the birds are a little wary of anything new. So don't expect to put food out and then see flocks of birds. It may take them a couple of weeks to get used to the idea of there being food and that you actually do not want to eat them.

As people have said sunflower hearts are a favourite but I have found recently that the birds have gone more for peanut bits, not sure why the change.

Suggest that you only put out a little until they get used to the idea of there being food as it will go to waste otherwise. One other thing I found out - a lot of british birds are ground feeders so put some on the ground.

As for a cheap birdbath, try a large plastic tray that you stand pots in Wilkinsons have some for about 60p but get the widest possible, other places may have bigger ones than I saw at Wilkos.

Looks good to me! Nowt wrong with nettles either - I got some decidely funny looks collecting wild ones for nettle tea last year, so I reckon you're onto a winner with being able to grab a crafty handful over the boundary now and again

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Thanks once again deadwood - more useful info

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Lol! its actually where we dispose of our really woody cuttings, etc. Its a bit of spare land owned by the local housing association. They should cut the nettles back but don't. Some would be okay, but the roots tend to invade. Its tricky at the minute as we're trying to plant a native(ish - inc buddleia) hedge.

Edit - further to putting stuff down for ground-feeding birds, don't leave it overnight because of vermin. Also watch out for them coming for seed dropped from feeders - finches often 'spit' out onto the ground the stuff they don't fancy (another reason we stick to peanuts/nyger/suet - not so much waste)!

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Manda.

"Wouldn't it be nice
For maybe an hour
To not have a care."

Yes it is apparently due to the mild weather we've had that the birds are able to get food elsewhere in the wilderness (from what I heard from our local news on TV).

Am I bad or just plain mean ? I don't specifically buy bird feed but any leftover or unwanted household foodstuffs get given to the birds. I have given them spaghetti/pasta, rice, fatty meat pieces, stale bread, old cake, porridge etc but never fruits because I didn't realise they went for that. I do get lots of semi rotten cooking apples. I used to throw the foods on the patio but they never really went for that so I gathered they feel threatened as it's too near to the house. Now I scatter the food on the roof of the garden shed some 15 yards from the house and they now clear off fast. We get a very good view of all sorts of birds feeding from the house. Okay it's a massive bird table but useful as the little birds have chance of getting a feed while the big birds are busy towards the centre. I was going to get myself a bird table then decided the shed roof serves that purpose, possibly more usefully too.

Oh I forgot to add, the roof bird table keeps the cat off too .

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We have the following in our garden in a forsythia bush:-

A seed feeder
A peanut feeder
Fat Balls

Numerous cats in the area but they leave the birds alone. The larger birds feed from the seed that falls out of the feeder.