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Old 16-10-2007, 01:37 PM
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At work there is a job going for team leader. The question is should I go for it? or Not?

1' It means if no one can do the delivery I have to do it
even if I have been there since 6am I would be expected to do the delivery even if it ment i had to stay till 11pm

it could mean i end up working 7 days a week
yes its more money
yes I could do the job
yes I like all the people (well most) I work with

2' what is more important to me
My job
My wife
The Plot

No thats the way tesco wont it but in reality its
Mrs D
The Plot
Home
Dog
Money
Job

At the moment I am at home
Monday till 4pm, Tuesday till 5pm, wednesday off, Thursday off, friday work till 7pm, Saturday work till 7pm.Sunday work till 5pm

this means i get down the plot 4 days a week

I know if I could not go down the plot I would get very agitated and start to resent work. I do now when I do over time I think why the F am I hear when i could be down the plot.
I just been looking at the pickys of me on the plot and reolising how happy I am when Im down there Even in the winter wet and cold
I'm wraped up got a brew and in My element
I love it no one can take it away from me.
Planting the seed, watering it watching it grow , looking after its evey need.
even when its grown you stll need to peper it Just been theriden chillis on to fishing line and tieing them up.
spacing them out so all of it dries

looking at the pumpking cheking they skin if its starts to feel a bit soft cook it and frezze it.

shelling peas and beans the list goes on and I dont mind I love it

I havent got time for work need to win the lotto then can tell them to deliver there own shopping, in a nice polite way of corse

what do people think should I go for it or Not
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Old 16-10-2007, 02:01 PM
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I am all for ambition. But in a structured way. (Cos lots of people hit a comfortable spot and don't want to go any higher, or sometimes even wish they weren't as high as they are).

It sounds like you have a good set up with your shifts, and really, really enjoy the freedom that this gives you to be on the plot a lot.

If you got the TL spot, would you still have free days like now, or would you be expected to work days all the time (except your 2 days off, of course)? Would the boost in earnings and status be enough to offset against what you have to giev up for it (longer hours, less structure, those sorts of things). Would there be more stress, which you couldn't work off on the plot?

Or would the increased pay and step up the ladder lead to other great things in the future? With you still able to fit working the plots around the new schedule? As TL, would you be able to arrange the schedules better to your own satisfaction? Giving you perhaps MORE time on the plots (but maybe stranger working hours).

How does Mrs Dobby feel about it?

It sounds like if you haven't made up your mind, you have a definite preference. Do a list of ALL pros and cons, and weigh it up for yourself. Good luck whatever you decide.
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Old 16-10-2007, 02:04 PM
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HI Dobby,

I think you have answered your own question!

Extra cash would be good, but no spare time is not. If you can work to live and not live to work I think that is the best balance.

Is it a big rise or could a few extra hours over time here and there be your best option?

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Old 16-10-2007, 02:08 PM
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Do you want to be cash rich and time poor Dobby - or the other way round. Time is worth FAR more than money in my opinion. You can tell I'm not the ambitious type eh? It has to be a joint decision between you and Mrs D but I think you already know what you'll decide!
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Old 16-10-2007, 02:14 PM
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Last year we changed from cash rich and time poor to time rich and cash poor.

We wouldn't want to change back - even though cash poor is often an inconvenience.

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Old 16-10-2007, 02:16 PM
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I also think you've answered it for yourself Dobby. To me, my time is worth far more than I could ever be paid for - though of course I need to work to pay the bills (and buy the seeds!). If it's a good payrise and you will see a real benefit from it, and maybe it will lead to greater opportunities in the future allowing you more freedom, then that has to all be considered as well. I agree with Winged One's suggestion of doing lists of the pros and cons - though I bet I know which list will be longer!! Good luck with it Dobby.
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Old 16-10-2007, 02:30 PM
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Echoing everyone else here - stick with things the way they are or you will not be a happy Dobby.

I am much more content when totally skint with Madmax in the garden with me rather than him earning good money in another country. Get the message Madmax?
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Old 16-10-2007, 02:41 PM
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Except 2day off of course LOL we are so short staffed I end up working an extra night or 2 one lad has not had a day off for 28 days more fool him I say

Boost to earnings I get an extra £20+ now for Sunday hours so its just short of £100 more in my wage packet

Or would the increased pay and step up the ladder lead to other great things in the future?
Yea possible sectin manager but they have to run round like headless chickens (sorry for the saying but I could not think of anything else)

Mandy yea time is better live to love

Flummery
I feel like the riches man alive with Mrs D and the plot

KK I have never been rich in cash so what you never had you never miss

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If it's a good payrise and you will see a real benefit from it, and maybe it will lead to greater opportunities in the future allowing you more freedom, then that has to all be considered as well.

If I loose the Sunday hours id be on about the same maybe a little bit more
greater opportunities yes a lot more strss

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Old 16-10-2007, 02:42 PM
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Having more money isn't the answer to everything!! Anyway, you have saved a fortune on fruit & veggies this year with what you have grown on the plot.
If being Team Leader will add to your life in ways other than money, then it's worth considering though - will it boost your confidence/self esteem? Will it give you more control over things that annoy you at work now? Will you be able to choose your days/time off to fit with Mrs D's?
Pro's & Con's list definately sounds like the way to go. And be brutally honest with yourself!
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Old 16-10-2007, 02:46 PM
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I feel like the riches man alive with Mrs D and the plot
I think that's one of the best things I've read on here!! Dobby - I think you have your life sussed now. If you think the TL position would just add stress and no value, then it isn't for you from the sound of things. Just live your life and enjoy the riches you have
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Old 16-10-2007, 03:03 PM
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Hi Dobby, like everyone else I think that maybe you've already made your mind up not to go for it as it would give you less time with your lovely wife & the allotment & if you're happy why change. I'd discuss it with Mrs D. though & see what she thinks, maybe if you fancy giving it a go they could let you do it for a trial period of 3 months to see how you get on? As long as they would be prepared to give you back your old position it might be worth asking.
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Old 16-10-2007, 03:41 PM
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I dont think I would get my sunday back, She did that with someone else that steped down last year and he still hasnt got his sunday back

Thanks all I'm off to the plot now to get some farty chokes for tea
Mrs D is finishing work early cos she was in 2 hours early
this will be the first farty chokes of the season
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Old 16-10-2007, 04:48 PM
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If you can break the spiralling trend of needing more, most people are a lot happier.
And that certainly isn't aimed at you Dobby.

There are an awfull lot of happy people in the poorer Countries.
One can get a lot of pleasure out of the simple things in life.
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Old 16-10-2007, 05:12 PM
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It's not quite the same but I gave up a professional career to stay at home with my children and haven't regretted it once, even now that I'm a lone parent and times are harder financially. I think there's a huge amount of pressure on people to 'progress up the career ladder', as though that's the be all and end all of life.

I don't think any amount of money truly compensates for time spent with loved ones, doing things that make you feel happy and fulfilled.

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Well a very serious accident in our household five years ago made us realise that we had to make the very best use of every minute we had - either together or (within reason) doing all the things we really wanted to do.

Good luck with your decision Mr D - its not an easy one for you, but at least you are sorting it all out in your own mind by discussing it here.
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I think that was very nicely put Claire.
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You sound very content with your life as it is Dobby, or are you after something different?

You work for MrT (my OH used to as well) so you know what they can be like, its not as if you'd be hugely better off is it. How are the Team Leaders treated, how do they work? If thats what you want go for it, but don't do it because you feel you have to or they want you to.

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Old 16-10-2007, 06:49 PM
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Mr D,

I love you!!!! These posts of yours are so well written, straight from your heart, and your sentiments mean so much that they bought a tear to my eye, I love you!

Yes, extra money would be nice, BUT as we talked last night, its not everything AND if it means you'd resent work and the hassles, then dont go for it, but if they can offer you a rota that works for you and allows you to continue with the time on the plot and looking after me, well as we said last night, then go for it, but its YOUR decision, and I am behind you 1000%, no matter what you decide!

I know myself that I am fairly career orientated, not so much from an ego point of view, or even the money, but just from the fact of for my own sense of satisfaction at being able to do the best that I can in my job, I care far too much about my branch, my team, my store standards and our results, which as you know means I work too hard, work too many hours and get far too stressed out on times, but even so I enjoy my job, no matter how much I whinge about it! I would definitely be unhappy if I hadnt been given the opportunity to progress, as to be stuck in a position that you can do standing on your head with your eyes shut leaves you with limited job satisfaction and an inner turmoil at the fact that you are not utilising your abilities to the full, but thats just me, YOU are a different person, much more relaxed and confident in yourself than I am, and dont need to prove anything to anyone, so make the decision upon how you feel and what you want from life, not on others expectations or for financial rewards!

Oh, and did I mention I love you?
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Awww, sweet. Good luck in your decision Dobby.
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Old 16-10-2007, 07:18 PM
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Hi Dobby,

I think youve got your Priorities wrong it should be

1st Plot
2nd Plot
then fit the other two in as and when


We get all the Bol***ks at work about work life balance then they went and stuck an extra 1hrs travel time on it for me making 11 hrs out of the house. So I now don't catch the free bus service ( which is very nice) I drive to work and I leave a 7:00am and am back at 4:30pm - far better for me, but not so good for the carbon footprint but I was finding I was so knackered that I was continually arguing with Mrs G over the most stupid things. Now I come in have a cup of tea and can avoid her all night ( only joking).

We can all use some extra money, but you need time to spend it as well. As my grandad used to say ....

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Old 16-10-2007, 07:43 PM
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Dobby,

Heart warming comments I have read here. Follow your heart Mr D. Not the bank balance.

Stick with the plot. Don't lose it mate!

My job takes me away from my loved ones all too often but now after this one in Lisbon if we have to sell the house then so be it... You get many jobs, but you get one life that you are aware of. You are a lucky man Dobby, as am I. You have the following in your favour:
a good hobby you can follow,
fairly happy in your current job
and a woman who simply adores and supports you.

The last is by far the most valuable investment you have.

Money is noooooo good if you ain't there to enjoy it. Stay rich in health and happiness and follow your heart. I am sure you know aht you want to do!

Mrs D - That was sooooooo sweet!

And yes Shirls - I get your hint! 9th Dec.....
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Old 16-10-2007, 09:56 PM
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