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Hi everyone,
Ours is now 136 people for a site of 50 plots........
Is this the longest list in the country? Norris?
Ours is now 136 people for a site of 50 plots........
Is this the longest list in the country? Norris?
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Blimey, ours is under 40 people waiting for approx 110 plots. Having said that, as a plot is vacated, it is divided into 2 half plots if possible. I was on the list for just over 2 years, got a half plot fifteen months ago and am on the waiting list for a full plot.Whether you think you can or whether you think you can't, you are probably right.
Edited: for typo, thakns VC
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It must be so frustrating if you're waiting for somewhere to GYO. I hope everyone in the queue has a little garden at home, or knows that veg can be grown in containers. HFW certainly had the right idea when he helped with the land share scheme.Granny on the Game in SheffieldComment
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We're still negotiating for land for allotments. Its now 5 years..... Oh to have a waiting list!Comment
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croydon council's list was closed last year as it was already a 3-4 year wait for a plot in croydon .... they have maybe 10 sites .... yet it's still a 3-4 year wait .... that'll give you some idea how many people are on the list!
they will review things later this year and consider reopening the list ....Comment
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I don't get how they can "close" allotment lists.
It seems so wrong!
If lists are so long then they need to make more land available.Comment
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i guess they see it as "no point" adding anyone else to a list when they have no hope of getting a plot for 3 or 4 years .... it's just an admin headache for them .... in 3 year's time, people will have moved etc, and they could be making a lot of wasted phone calls etc ....Comment
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But the chances are the people on the list have moved/lost interest/died etc in the meantime too.Originally posted by Farmer_Gyles View Post
Perhaps you should have to keep putting your name on the list each year?
Closing a list is wrong. It doesn't address the issue of people wanting allotments. It helps manipulate figures too. If everyone was allowed on the list then the numbers wanting allotments would be even more shocking.Last edited by alldigging; 26-04-2012, 11:52 AM.Comment
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If you can get hold of the list and collectively write to the council aren't they duty bound to find mean of creating one?
I'm sure we've had a conversation about this in the past, something like if 20 or so wrote as a collective about requiring an allotment, the council under statute was required to find purchase and create a site.I'm only here cos I got on the wrong bus.Comment
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find 5 other people (So 6 including you) ... that's the theory.Originally posted by Mikeywills View Post
You also need to probably identify land, get local residents onside, get councillors working together (They play the blame game if their party isn't in charge) - and bear in mind they stand for election too - and that's a good time to harrass them about allotment provision.
How many people on a list would be prepared to go and see their MP about the lack of allotments?
Perhaps a national campaign to motivate people to ask MPs, councillors and councils for allotments might be a good idea?
Identify land without leaving your house. Google maps shows satelite images (bing is more up to date) - any scraps of land could be turned into small sites.Last edited by alldigging; 26-04-2012, 12:18 PM.Comment
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unless the council send me the list, i'll have to go knocking door to door ....Originally posted by alldigging View Post
have spotted the land - see LandSpot | Landshare - connecting growers to people with land to share. - it's the top post there, "Unused Field" - it's hugeOriginally posted by alldigging View Post
I've contacted the residents association - the land was being sold as "speculative building plots", although it's green belt land and can't be built on - the residents association often make a lot of objections to planning applications and things in the area and they made a lot of enquiries / objections about this field at the time it was being offered for sale ....
that's what landshare.net is about .... but no response in the last 6 days ....Originally posted by alldigging View PostLast edited by Farmer_Gyles; 26-04-2012, 12:27 PM.Comment
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Ring the local paper. Ask to speak to a reporter (You can email them wit your phone number)
Create a story and get them to publish it
(Write it in the style of a press release and then email it all the local papers if you can't get anyone to speak to)
"Could this field solve the allotment crisis in X"
Farmer_Gyles, 21, who lives in X has been trying to get an allotment for 4 years.
"I've tried everything" says Farmer_Gyles, "I've been to every site in the area, I've registered on the list but I've been told there's no point as the list is too long"
After having been told how long the list was Farmer_Gyles set out to see if he could spot any land that might be suitable and thinks he's found the perfect spot.
The land is at X, is about 3 acres and would provide 50 plots.
Farmer_Gyles says "This land is unused, and can't be built on for housing, but would provide much needed allotments"
Farmer_Gyles is starting a campaign to try to get this land turned into allotments and is looking for people who want an allotment to join in the campaign.
"It's not just me who can't get an allotment, there's hundreds of people on the waiting list," said Farmer_Gyles,
etc.Comment
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There are 20 people here looking for allotments. Living on a coastal strip there is very little suitable land as anything any good has been built upon.
We've been offered:
1. some privately owned hillside land to rent at a price that puts it out of the pockets of anyone wanting a plot,
2. part of the playing fields - tremendous outcry by some locals and petitions against it.
3. land that had an old Scout hut on it, it was demolished but there were so many trees around it that couldn't be cut down it was a non-starter.
4. the latest is a bit of swampy land at the back of a Council owned building.
The Community council, County Councillor and our AM & MP are on our side - there just isn't any land!
We have been offered the Council owned building and its grounds on a peppercorn rent but we have to take on a large complex of buildings in a poor state of repair as part of the deal. The Allotment group have no money to even insure them and grants will not be available unless we can find a user for the buildings.
Its not for the want of support, just land availability that stops us.
Its not easy trying to be green!Comment
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Landshare is all well and good for those who watch H FW's program but for the vast majority of the population it isn't on their radar. Even if they want an allotment they might not have seen it.
Local publicity for local issues. And raise the issue with your MP.
Ring and make an appointment to see them.
They will be supportive and maybe even join you in your campaign.Comment
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