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Old 14-03-2010, 11:26 AM
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Just watched this video on YouTube:

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About a growing trend in America for 'dumpster diving', whereby a group of people get ALL of their meals by routing through grocery store dustbins.
Really made me think about the waste 'we' (or in this case America) produces.

I know it's not exactly new news that generally Yanks have little respect for the planet, but it's interesting to note just how some people are changing that.

I also knew that the Grapes would have plenty to say on the subject. Let loose the opinions!
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Old 14-03-2010, 11:47 AM
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It really pees me off that food is dumped because its past or near its sellby date. Why dont stores either reduce the price drastically or offer it to charities?
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Old 14-03-2010, 01:14 PM
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I managed a project for homeless individuals M&S used to donate food to us but under very stringenet conditions as where they had donated food else where it had ended up been sold at Car Boots. We had to ensure that the food was for the homeless indivuals consumtion only.
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Old 14-03-2010, 04:44 PM
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Its because of the blame-claim (ambulance chasing) culture that has engulfed us. Its far easier for the supermarkets to dump it than deal with litigation from a few people that will get ill and decide to sue them for feeding them food thats just past its ideal condition.
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Old 14-03-2010, 05:25 PM
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In Australia, supermarkets clear out their stock on a monthly basis. Anything nearing the end of it's shelf life it is given to the local Pensioners, or so I've been told.
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Old 14-03-2010, 05:33 PM
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About a growing trend in America for 'dumpster diving',
also known as freegans
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Old 14-03-2010, 06:47 PM
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Haven't done it myself, but I think it's a fab idea. Unfortunately, the supermarkets themselves don't think the same.

I was stood outside a Sainsbury mini once (the ones they have attached to petrol stations), and saw the security guard give chase to a Freegan who'd gone into the bin to get a few loaves of bread. He chased him all the way down the street, tackled him to the ground, and took the bread off him, before putting it back in the bin, and padlocking it.

The wastage in this country makes me so mad!
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Old 14-03-2010, 06:51 PM
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Branches of Sainsburys, M&S and Waitrose already donate sell-by food to charity. Common sense means they have to bin certain items.

There's quite a few initiatives and it helps if people actually get involved at a local level. The Tesco near our old house started to donate some items because people started a petition and asked them to.

In the US, there are many similar schemes - a google search finds lots of mainly city-based ones.
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Old 14-03-2010, 07:19 PM
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i saw a programme about freegans once. I think it is good to make use of what shops have to throw away, but I am stunned that it is illegal, and I also think the shops shouldn't be throwing it out in the first place but giving it to local needy (like me)
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Old 14-03-2010, 08:18 PM
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I know quite a few people who live in squats who dive for food.
Good on them I say.
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Old 14-03-2010, 09:09 PM
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I read somewhere a few years ago that Tesco, among a few others actually soak the food to be dumped in blue dyed bleach so it cannot be used
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Food in bins has been soaked in many things in the past - bleach, soap, oil, allsorts (not licorice ones though!) to stop exactly this kind of thing.

Wellies - I'm with you on the "appaling that it's illegal" thing too. It's a (minor) pet hate of mine.


Not food, but I did a bit of diving today. I saw a couple of bits of wood (I thought they were about 4 feet long) on a skip so went to pull them out... they were about 12 feet long! All in all I got about 6 or 7 planks ranging from 8 to 12 feet in length... probably about £10 to £20 worth of wood if bought at B&Q prices!

I did wonder about the potential for hassle about doing it but decided that on balance I really didn't care and if anyone said anything I'd have a quiet word about the utter stupidity in chucking something in a skip for landfill and then complaining when someone actually tries to use it for something worthwhile.

Noone said anything. I got a load of free wood and started hacking it to bits on my table saw... a nice feeling!
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Old 15-03-2010, 01:48 AM
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Glutton 4...given to local pensioners! Well maybe 1 Australian store does (I'm sure 1 Brit shop does too). Multinationals are similar the world over I assure you. Food is dumped, and freegans get prosecuted. Same here in NZ. Actually the main supermarket in Dunedin has its bin right beside the main road and police station!
Sigh. We do live in a very litigious world. Even if it were to be given to pensioners, I'm sure many would be asking why the food is suitable for them and not those who can afford it!
A sorry wasteful situation.
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Old 15-03-2010, 06:19 AM
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Too much choice = lots of stuff thrown away.
The aisle that really irritates in any supermarket is the breakfast aisle. Who needs 60 different types of cereal based stuff? Who eats it? And special k? how many types? grrrr......
It'd be interesting to find out how much waste a local shop used to throw out...a job for my days off I think...
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Old 15-03-2010, 08:56 AM
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Another part of this that I don't understand is:
Every supermarket I've been in has a discounted/dented/going out-of-date section with marked down produce in it, there's always a small crowd around it as well.
The popularity of these sections surely suggests there's a market for this food, especially in the 'current economic climate' (sorry to use that phrase, it really is becoming boring!)

Perhaps there just isn't enough space in the supermarket considering the limited margin they'll make on these (if any), but any amount is surely better than just throwing it away.

These 'freegans' also take any vegetables that have gone mouldy and compost them too, i'm sure any rotten meat could be vermicomposted too, so nothing goes to waste completely.
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Good point there Ollie - perhaps supermarkets could have large scale versions of household recycling bins?
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I've been in to our local Coop every night in the last week to check out their 'out of date' sections.... I've picked up packs of 2 garlic baguettes for 50p, a whole free range chicken for £1.50, loaves of bread for 30p, a family sized chicken and bacon pie for £1 etc. I've taken it all home and put it in the freezer!

If it's still edible, I honestly can't see why people aren't allowed to take it out of the bin. Obviously, if it's stinky and covered in mould (and it's not cheese that's supposed to be like that) fair enough...
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