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    We got a new puppy nearly 2 weeks ago now. We have been extremely careful to praise and give full attention to our 5 year old black labrador bitch. Her behaviour is however being rather tiresome now. She has defacated and urinated in the house for the last week. Puppy is already fully house trained and asks to go out.(german shepherds have brains) She has never messed in the house but was rather thick and slow to learn about poo training- she was 6 months until she got it. She plays happily with puppy and brings her ball for it. We don't understand why she is being so disgusting and it is really starting to try our patience. Does anyone know why she is doing this ? I am at my wits end after walking into a pile of s..t in the kitchen. NOT funny i can tell you and I could accept it if it was the puppy.

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    Oh dear. She's jealous. It's her way of drawing attention to herself!
    All the best - Glutton 4 Punishment
    Freelance shrub butcher and weed removal operative.

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    • #3
      Agree with G4..jealousy. Just because she likes the pup doesn't mean she's happy to share your attention with it.
      Ignore the mess (difficult I know) and reward and praise her like mad when she goes where she should.
      Try reading Jan Flemming's 'The dog Whisperer', it has lots of advise on introducing a second dog to the household. And as german shepherds are quite strong willed and intelligent it will definately pay off to get it right while she's still a pup. We've had our rescue girl for 5 years now and she is still throwing us curved balls...light bulb? Halogen spotlight more like.
      Anyone who says nothing is impossible has never tried slamming a revolving door

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      • #4
        Sorry..that's Jan Fennel I think, not Flemming..
        Obviously owning a GSD is so stressful it wipes the memory.....
        JOKE honest.
        Anyone who says nothing is impossible has never tried slamming a revolving door

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        • #5
          I think it's early days Petal. As Hilly says, just keep praising her when she gets it right and take no notice of her at all when she gets it wrong. In a few weeks time there'll be no problem.
          Granny on the Game in Sheffield

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          • #6
            older dog still dumping on kitchen floor! aargh! very difficult not to use the f word at 6 in the morning, I can tell you. puppy has started messing in his crate, which is not his fault but who can blame him when his older role model is behaving like this!

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            • #7
              ((HUGS)) Petal - Our Cat is behaving in a similar way! Just ignore the poo, from both of them, clear it up with absolutely no fuss, then carry on. Ignore the bad behaviour, reward the good. I know it's difficult to not get cross, but it's the only way. As Flo says, it really is early days. Your Lab is jealous, however much fuss you make of her, she still now has to share your affections, which she is not used to doing. She will come round, honest, but she has to adjust to this newcomer invading her space.

              Our Cat has only recently accepted the fact that Oscar is here to stay, and that she may as well get used to it.
              All the best - Glutton 4 Punishment
              Freelance shrub butcher and weed removal operative.

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              • #8
                I agree, it's best ignored. When you come down in the morning put the older bitch outside and don't let her see you cleaning up. But say nothing, not a "Good morning" not a "Never mind" and certainly not a "Bad dog" She's not, she's just a dog. It will pass.

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                • #9
                  If you catch her 'in the act' that is the only time you reprimand!
                  A pup will normally only 'mess' in his own space if genuinely desperate. Make sure he has frequent opportunity to get where he is supposed to do it.
                  Shadow (like my last 2 dogs) sleeps in my room, so that if he wants out in the night he can wake me up. Hasn't happened since the second week we had him, apart from when he had a tummy upset.
                  We have a few times had daytime 'incidents', the last 2 in the bathroom. It seems he has associated that room with certain types of event. Sometimes we can't tell whether he wants out or wants something else....
                  Flowers come in too many colours to see the world in black-and-white.

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                  • #10
                    If you've got a dog messing in the house, use warm water and biological washing powder to clean the area... it gets rid of the smell of pee/poo so they won't go there again...

                    Petal - I'd maybe try going back to basics with your older dog, treat her like a puppy in terms of her toilet requirements, out after meals/sleep/play, fuss for going in the right place, ignore the messing...

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                    • #11
                      Sorry Hilary, but I disagree with the reprimand - even if you catch the Dog in the act. The Dog cannot differentiate between 'where' and 'what' in that instance, and will think it's being told off for going to the toilet, not where it has gone. This can lead to further problems if the Dog thinks it shouldn't go to the toilet...
                      All the best - Glutton 4 Punishment
                      Freelance shrub butcher and weed removal operative.

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                      • #12
                        G4 and hilary, i'm somewhere inbetween - if I catch her in the act then boy will she get told, she is 5 years old and knows better. I am being calm about it, muttering foul language quietly... I have just never heard of an older dog doing this when a new puppy arrives.

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                        • #13
                          Sorry, can't offer advice, but big hugs. Must be driving you demented.
                          Kirsty b xx

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                          • #14
                            my mini schnauzer got house trained easily. it slept in its own little tent cage thing. super good boy, till one day he learnt how to escape from teh tent and scramble upstairs to do his poopy. i had no idea and managed to step in it upstairs. when i realised my foot was in it, instead of bringing it back up, i turned around. smooshing it in even further. epic fail.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Glutton4... View Post
                              Sorry Hilary, but I disagree with the reprimand - even if you catch the Dog in the act. The Dog cannot differentiate between 'where' and 'what' in that instance, and will think it's being told off for going to the toilet, not where it has gone. This can lead to further problems if the Dog thinks it shouldn't go to the toilet...
                              We are talking about an adult dog which has forgotten (or chosen to ignore) housetraining. With a puppy, you simply put it in the right place as fast as possible, then praise the correct action, but with a 'was housetrained' older dog, a reprimand is not out of place!
                              Flowers come in too many colours to see the world in black-and-white.

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