Grow Your Own Magazine


Go Back   The Grapevine > Off Topic > General chitchat
General chitchat Got something non-GYO related to get off your chest? Feel free to talk about anything you like! (Keep it clean)

Visit our sponsors for all your gardening and growing needs!

www.garden4less.co.uk www.garden4less.co.uk www.garden4less.co.uk www.garden4less.co.uk www.garden4less.co.uk www.garden4less.co.uk

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 11-05-2007, 10:34 AM
Seedling
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 82
Default brain picking about immersion heater

you're all clever guys. and seeing the debates flying regarding energy consumption, you may be able to help answer a couple of questions.

our boiler has crunched to a halt and we need a new one. once again i'm joyful to be a renter - for once its not me who will have to dig deep!!

Having no heating is not an issue for a week or so. Hot water will be ok because we have an immersion heater.

Growing up I have fond memories of only being allowed to put the immersion on in the most direst of emergencies. Dear old dad would have palpitations if we ever went near the switch! he equated it to ripping up piles of tenners.

so:-

is it really expensive? or was dad feeding a line? if do how expensive? and am I better to switch it on when i need it or is it more cost effective to turn it on and leave it on....then i'm not doing that 'heat from cold' stuff????
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 11-05-2007, 11:03 AM
Sprouter
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Leeds
Posts: 207
Default

Hi

I dont find it that expensive, but then again I dont like waste.
I just switch it on a hour before I need it, it does keep hot overnight, especialy in summer.
The trick is remembering to turn it off, once youve witched it on.
When I first moved in, I rent also, there was hardly any insulation on the boiler, I bought a insulation jacket and put some old towels round it.
Whats your like for insulation?


Tigerella
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 11-05-2007, 11:32 AM
TPeers's Avatar
Cropper
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Coulsdon, Surrey
Posts: 1,450
Blog Entries: 3
Default

Your average immersion heater has a 2 or 3 KW draw for power, that means it is basically a large kettle. If you leave it on you are running a kettle endlessly - not a good idea! Watch your electric meter, when the immersion is on the dials will spin!

It should only take 20 minutes or so for the immersion heater to heat one tank of water, depending on the age and calcification of the element. If you want a bath you may need two tank loads if you have deep baths, but one tank load should do an average shower.

If you can get a timer switch on the instalation, then you can warm the water up for the morning - if you also need hot water in the evening (who doesn't) you can set it for that as well if the main use is at a regular time.

Hope this info helps


Terry
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 11-05-2007, 12:40 PM
Seedling
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 82
Default

thanks for that guys. only have to last until the new stuff gets installed. we're a bathless house so don't use tons of water at any one time.

cylinder is ancient with very little insulation so i've demanded that gets entirely replaced too.

Actually, just for laughs, have just rung my dad to tell him I switched the immersion on on Tuesday, did he think I should turn it off yet??? How to make a 60 year old hyperventilate!!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 11-05-2007, 01:47 PM
Sprouter
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Guernsey
Posts: 172
Default

We have a timer on ours and only have it on for 4 hours a day in the Economy12 cheap period, and off at all other times - we've not run out of hot water yet, and it doesn't cost us much. - Are you on an equivalent charge structure?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 11-05-2007, 06:11 PM
Sprouter
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Leeds
Posts: 207
Default

Hi

[quote][4 hours a day in the Economy12 cheap period,/QUOTE]

Ive heard of economy 7, whats economy 12?

Tigerella
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 11-05-2007, 07:19 PM
Sprouter
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Guernsey
Posts: 172
Default

The Guernsey version - 10 hours cheap from 20:45 to 06:45 and 2 hours from 13:40 to 15:40. The 2 hours in the afternoon really helps as you get a nice top up in the immersion. Used to have storage heaters which got a nice boost for the evening as well.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 11-05-2007, 11:29 PM
Snadger's Avatar
Mature Fruiter
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Newcastle-Upon-Tyne (Is there a nice bit?)
Posts: 7,111
Default

Thats the beauty of a combi boiler, you only heat the water for the time it takes to run the bath!
__________________
My Majesty made for him a garden anew in order
to present to him vegetables and all beautiful flowers.-
Offerings of Thutmose III to Amon-Ra (1500 BCE)
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 12-05-2007, 10:00 PM
nick the grief's Avatar
Gardening Guru
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Sunny Nunny, Warwickshire
Posts: 6,035
Default

Whats a bath
__________________
ntg
Never be afraid to try something new.
Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark.
A large group of professionals built the Titanic


http://grief-encounters.blogspot.com/
==================================================
The All New Home page of Hartshill Allotments full of useful bits
http://www.hags.btik.com
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 12-05-2007, 10:34 PM
Snadger's Avatar
Mature Fruiter
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Newcastle-Upon-Tyne (Is there a nice bit?)
Posts: 7,111
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nick the grief View Post
Whats a bath
Something you relax in after a hard day supping tea at the lottie!
__________________
My Majesty made for him a garden anew in order
to present to him vegetables and all beautiful flowers.-
Offerings of Thutmose III to Amon-Ra (1500 BCE)
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 12-05-2007, 11:15 PM
beefy's Avatar
Cropper
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Behind the sofa - Norn Iron
Posts: 1,041
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nick the grief View Post
Whats a bath
Not sure but I have one twice a year wether I need it or not.
__________________
Et tū, quis es?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:54 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0