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So who else is a bit 'new age' when it comes to growing things/life in general?

I sometimes wonder about being a bit more 'spiritual', but never could believe in organised religions.

I think gardening and growing things could become a bit 'spiritual'.

How 'bout youse?

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Manda.

"Wouldn't it be nice
For maybe an hour
To not have a care."

Manda- agre totally but don't have enough time to elaborate - will return and contribute later.

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it's written in the wind that we're two, carved out in the sand that we're real,
it's lit up in the stars that we're true, we're destined in the sky to be glad
Paul Weller
http://johntygreentoes.blogspot.com/

you can't grow your own without becoming more "in tune" with nature and the cycle of life.

Oh but you can - plenty of folk would/will do things the scientific way. I'm not anti-science (I did a science degree - failed ), but its only one belief system, not the only belief system!

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Manda.

"Wouldn't it be nice
For maybe an hour
To not have a care."

I guess the frogs and Sarah's death, and Spring and growing things....got me thinking again - or its the red wine!

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Manda.

"Wouldn't it be nice
For maybe an hour
To not have a care."

scientists still have to work with the seasons.

no they don't they think they can change the seasons!

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Manda.

"Wouldn't it be nice
For maybe an hour
To not have a care."

how? are we talking heated greenhouses?

well they can seed rain clouds? and put fish genes in plants and grow ears on mice....so why not?

anyway I wanted a bit of a positive message, a way to see things as you say 'in tune', not discordant.

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Manda.

"Wouldn't it be nice
For maybe an hour
To not have a care."

As I've lived all of my life within a mile of the countryside I think that I am intune with nature. My wife was brought up in Sutton Coldfield & the first year we lived together she was always noticing things like the 1st bluebells or the leaves turning - I guess it was everyday for me so I never noticed. THere's none so blind etc.

Also being a bit of a bumkin, I appreciate the seasonal quality of food. I love sprouts & Leeks but we rarely eat them when they are out of season as they just don't taste right

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ntg

Never be afraid to try something new.
Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark.
A large group of professionals built the Titanic

http://grief-encounters.blogspot.com/

My family think I'm hippyish/new age.My sons don't really like my clothes,cos when I get chance to 'dress up' i wear 'Ethnicy clothes'.Since being 'grown up' I think I've definatley become more new age especially with how I eat and with the gyo and recycling and all the rest of it.Most of my relatives just think I'm exentric(OR LOOPY!)As for spirituality,my gardening and being at one with nature does it for me.

Earthbabe, what brought all that up on a Sunday night. You're certainly right that science doesn't have the answer to everything, and nobody else has a monopoly on the truth either. I subscribe to no religion, but was brought up in the Christian tradition. As I remember things, The first sin commited by Adam and Eve, was eating from the tree of knowledge which they had been forbidden to do. There are things not given to us to know and we just have to accept the mystery.
But there are things which all religions teach. Live in a right and proper manner and treat other people as you wish to be treated. I don't think you can go far wrong with that.
Just be true to yourself and live life in a way that feels right to you. I don't see any other way.

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From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.

Well said Alice .
At home we were always told that what anyone did for a couple of hours on a Sunday (or any other day of the week )was entirely their own business and if they didn't do the same as you it didn't matter .

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Et tū, quis es?

Earthbabe

You have hit on an interesting question and I hope it provokes a great thread.

My own journey has been one from a rather strict "religious" up bringing within the Christian tradition to a place where I can now easily be criticised as being "New Agey" because I find a kind of peace and serenity and connection with the "other" through the natural world.

Of course it is impossible to fully express these sorts of things in words but I think it is worth the trying.

I like the word connection because for me it describes those luminous (numinous) moments when things make complete sense, albeit often very fleetingly. And for me these moments happen when I am outdoors and revelling in nature. I first experienced this feeling/oneness connection thingy when I climbed to the top of of Hellvelyn aged about 12. I got to the top, looked about me and was amazed. I could only respond with silence. I was overawed. I can honestly say that I find my garden and allotment a place of connection - a connection with the real and natural rhythm of things, a connection with the overwhelming harmony of life/death, growth/decay.

No doubt the more dogmatic amongst us will find all this a bit wish washy, I know I have friends that do, as I am basing my understanding on what I am experiencing, rather than in some "revealed truth" (Bible, Qur'an, Torah, Buddah etc), but after much thought and debate in religious circles that is where I have got to - my partnership with nature is far more important to me than my conscious beliefs.

I respect those with a religious outlook as I think we all have it within us, what I struggle to respect is the doctrinal fundamentalism that is currently ruining our world. But I always remind myself that that is a minority of people who hold religious views, although their actions can make them a significant minority.

This is a huge area for discussion, and I hope it takes off.

PS thanks again for the JA tubers.

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it's written in the wind that we're two, carved out in the sand that we're real,
it's lit up in the stars that we're true, we're destined in the sky to be glad
Paul Weller
http://johntygreentoes.blogspot.com/

Are folk calling me earthbabe or am I hallucinating?

I very much like what you say JT - I'd like to get a bit gnostic myself, I'm just trying to figure out how.

Ah well the 'mundane' calls I must away to bed.

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Manda.

"Wouldn't it be nice
For maybe an hour
To not have a care."

I think you will find Johnty that a majority of people hold religious views. Unfortunately out of that majority a minority's views cause huge problems primarily as they feast of the position and power that they gain.

I am a Christian and believe in the main crux of Christianity, that Jesus died to absolve us of sin. However I hold no great faith in the fabric of Churches or the strict rigidness of organised services. Fellowship is of more importance to me as that is what Jesus preached before there were churches or vicars. A persons religion is a very personal thing and is something that evolves and often has to be worked at, its not always easy and it is the challenge of faith that makes many people wander off to practice things that do not challenge their concience or lifestyle. A faith that doesent challenge you is a false friend as it will give you no joy. We all have moments where we are in awe, just like yours on the top of Helvelyn where we see in full colour the beauty of the world about us. The appreciation of these moments is what makes us human and are perhaps not religious or spiritual in nature, just breathtaking in putting us into perspective in relation to our surroundings.

I am no luddite, I believe in Darwins findings and find no contradiction to whats in the bible, the world has had billions of years to move on and it still does.

What is the point of life if there is no challenge, life would be pointless. Thankfully, God gave us freewill.

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Kindest regards, David.

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updated - Sunday 19th at 2100hrs

SPB, you have my apology, I called you earthbabe. Only excuse - too late on a Sunday night.

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From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.

I understand and agree with what you've said PW - I'm sure half the problem in talking about these things is that one man's spirituality is another man's religion and it's the words that get in the way.

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it's written in the wind that we're two, carved out in the sand that we're real,
it's lit up in the stars that we're true, we're destined in the sky to be glad
Paul Weller
http://johntygreentoes.blogspot.com/

Sorry SBP - I got your name mixed up as well.

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it's written in the wind that we're two, carved out in the sand that we're real,
it's lit up in the stars that we're true, we're destined in the sky to be glad
Paul Weller
http://johntygreentoes.blogspot.com/

Whilst I'm still in my Shakespear frame of mind this quote from Hamlet goes a long way

This above all: to thine ownself be true.
(1.3.82), Polonius

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ntg

Never be afraid to try something new.
Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark.
A large group of professionals built the Titanic

http://grief-encounters.blogspot.com/

SBP, I'm glad they finally sorted out who you are. I've been out all evening and then watched a mix of Cold Mountain and I, Robot. Ho Hum!

I have pondered asking this sort of question and have found that many are willing to discuss their beliefs openly in all manner of threads. I will ponder on mine in order to answer with clarity, although those who have followed some of the threads will have a good idea where I stand.

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Bright Blessings
Earthbabe
If at first you don't succeed, open a bottle of wine.

NTG, you have taken one short line out of my favourite Shakespearian quotation:-

"Give every man thine ear, but few thy voice;
Take each man's censure, but reserve thy judgment.
Costly thy habit as thy purse can buy,
But not expressed in fancy; rich not gaudy;
For the apparel oft proclaims the man ............
Neither a borrower, nor a lender be;
For loan oft loses both itself and friend,
And borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry.
This above all, - to thine own self be true,
And it must follow, as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false to any man."

The modern translation of the 'costly thy habit as the purse can buy'' is 'cut your cloth according to your means'.

NTG the lines you missed were:-

And it must follow, as the night the day