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    Bought it as a Bramley but clearly it's not. Has a sort of russeting on them. Anyone like to say? Haven't eaten one yet so not sure if nice or cooker
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  • #2
    Going to answer my own question! Cox's self fertile perhaps?
    Copied from somewhere other than my garden, I understand Apple photos are all subjective due to position of tree, available sunlight etc
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    • #3
      Well, for a variety of reasons which I'll explain later, I want to say 'Claygate Pearmain' but I'm not prepared to commit to such a radical suggestion without more evidence.
      I think you need to provide more info on when and where the tree was purchased, what rootstock it was supposed to be, how/where you're growing it, your location, soil and everything else you can add to put the pieces together.
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      • #4
        Probably not a Cox as that has streaks and stripes. Nothing like my Claygate Pearmain either as that's mainly green. Is this a tree or an individual fruit that you've bought? It looks closest to Kidd's Orange Red among my apples but FB in the East of England and myself in the SW have diverging experiences with the same varieties, so, if its picked from your own tree, what's your location?
        Last edited by yummersetter; 15-09-2016, 01:30 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by yummersetter View Post
          ......Nothing like my Claygate Pearmain either as that's mainly green....It looks closest to Kidd's Orange Red among my apples ....
          Yes, we see different fruit appearances in different locations, climates, soil types, different rootstocks, from one year to the next, and there is also some evidence that the father (pollen donor) has some influence on how the apple develops.
          So many variables.
          Claygate Pearmain isn't the kind of 'accidental' substitute I'd expect for a Bramley - I'd most likely expect a simple mistake (a variety beginning with the same letter or similar name) or an accidental swap by a discounter between two very common varieties. Kidd's OR isn't the type of accidental swap I'd expect, either.

          Interestingly, I've had a MM106 Egremont Russet for a number of years. It's only managed about 4ft wide and 6ft tall and I've mostly abandoned it.
          In most past years it has produced apples which mostly have smooth, yellow skin with an orange sunny side and only small patches of thin russeting here and there, mostly near the eye.
          This year it has been smothered by a clematis and deep in the heavy shade the admittedly fairly small apples look just like they're supposed to at this time of year: greenish yellow with heavy russeting.
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          • #6
            Not Kidd's - right now its very stripey but it fills in when ripe. And, in a row of 17 different varieties, the only one that doesn't have any apples on the tree is Cox's SF, so I can't help with a photo. My Claygate is olive green with lots of russet and, this year, nearly every apple has lumps and bumps. It's a suicidal tree though, has always wanted to be horizontal and has leaned as far as 46 degrees so its fruit may not be typical. I bought it to eat the apples at Christmas, as Bunyard recommends, but the apples all fall in early October and are useless by December.
            Last edited by yummersetter; 15-09-2016, 03:07 PM.

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            • #7
              I'll throw Cornish Aromatic into the mix, too, but that's another variety I wouldn't expect from a labelling error.
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              • #8
                Thank you for your replies.
                Bought as a 4' whip off a 'reputable nursery' via Ebay 3 or 4 years ago. This is it's first year to fruit. I live in north Lincolnshire. It is planted in very heavy loam,wet but not water logged. Against a north facing fence though the head is now above the fence in full light. The photos are of my actual tree but the photo in my second post is copied from an online nursery. The apples are large still growing and firmly attached to the tree. Looking forward to trying one.
                Thanks for your help.

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                • #9
                  The label was simply written by biro and just said 'Bramley'. Rootstock unknown. It grew little in 2 years perhaps due to being in shade of a north fence. Hope this helps. Thanks.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by lookbettertomorow View Post
                    .....Bought as a 4' whip off a 'reputable nursery' via Ebay 3 or 4 years ago.....
                    Can you private message me the nursery name so I can look at their recent stock lists to help narrow down the choices.
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                    • #11
                      Regretfully Ebay records don't go back far enough for me to find out, otherwise I would have contacted them.

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                      • #12
                        Am I the only one who sees the title and thinks 'no chance, you're not getting my Apple ID'? I still have £20 credit in my iTunes account.

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                        • #13
                          I did struggle googling it apples were way down the list

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