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    Round up

    I have got a patch that was full of couch grass. So i decided that the best method was to spray it with round up ( not the shop version ) It was extra strong that the local council use .. I sprayed the plot yesterday when would be safe to use the ground for planting veg ?

    cheers jamie
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    Was your couch in full growth? You're supposed to spray when there's lots of leaf
    All gardeners know better than other gardeners." -- Chinese Proverb.

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    • #3
      yes it was all over the bed in full flow .

      do you know when it will be safe to plant in this bed?

      jamie
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      • #4
        I would say look on the bottle ... but you didn't get a bottle did you?

        You have to allow time for the poison to be taken through the plant's system and down to the roots. It may take more than one application to kill the roots


        You might get more info on here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundup_(herbicide)
        Last edited by Two_Sheds; 18-03-2012, 09:02 AM.
        All gardeners know better than other gardeners." -- Chinese Proverb.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Two_Sheds View Post
          I would say look on the bottle ... but you didn't get a bottle did you?
          no it was in a big clear drum , all i know is its a lot stronger than the bought stuff . I would like to plant my the the middle of april but only if safe to do so
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          • #6
            Originally posted by roadkill View Post
            I would like to plant my the the middle of april but only if safe to do so
            It depends what you mean by 'safe' ... (I just put a Wiki link above ^ )
            All gardeners know better than other gardeners." -- Chinese Proverb.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Two_Sheds View Post
              It depends what you mean by 'safe' ... (I just put a Wiki link above ^ )
              meaning it wont harm me or my kids in the veg we eat , but reading that link it doesn't sound to good . Think i would of been better not using it .

              If i don't grow i don't really want to leave bare soil is there a good green manure that will stay in the ground for most of the growing season without becoiming a weed its self
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              • #8
                Originally posted by roadkill View Post
                Think i would of been better not using it
                That's a conclusion a lot of people are coming to

                Originally posted by roadkill View Post
                i don't really want to leave bare soil is there a good green manure that will stay in the ground for most of the growing season without becoiming a weed its self
                My preferences (having tried most of them) are:

                - limnanthes: shallow rooted, ground cover, bee attractor
                - phacelia: ditto
                - alfalfa: good to sow in lines amongst your crops, to cut and mulch several times over about 3 years
                All gardeners know better than other gardeners." -- Chinese Proverb.

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                • #9
                  Cant understand why roundup is allowed and ***** fluid isn't?

                  Anyway............roundup (gylphosate) supposedly becomes inert when it comes into contact with soil. Once its dried on the leaf, theoretically you can plant straight away.

                  If you haven't got a pesticide certificate you are breaking the law by using stuff designated for amenity use, and could cause untold damage to the environment.
                  My Majesty made for him a garden anew in order
                  to present to him vegetables and all beautiful flowers.- Offerings of Thutmose III to Amon-Ra (1500 BCE)

                  Diversify & prosper


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by roadkill View Post
                    Think i would of been better not using it .
                    Maybe it would be better to ask the questions before using the product.

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                    • #11
                      I have to admit that we use it on the eges of our land.
                      We buy the stronger strength called Gallup 360 ( industrial strength) when we are in the UK

                      I've had a look at the instructions.
                      Seems in 'ideal growing conditions' -( ie late Spring,) you can plant trees within 7 days.
                      Edible plants?...4 days before sowing seeds!

                      To be honest- apart from using it on non veg areas- I'd leave it a good month to give it time to kill off the weeds- and yank out the roots and then give it a few days before planting out!

                      Mid April? yup- I'd go with that too ( now that you've sprayed it!)
                      "Nicos, Queen of Gooooogle" and... GYO's own Miss Marple

                      Location....Normandy France

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                      • #12
                        I may sound touchy about glyphosate.............but my allotment neighbour used industrial strength stuff without realising the spray mist can cause damage to areas downwind..........i.e. my allotment. Had to buy new rhubarb this year!
                        My Majesty made for him a garden anew in order
                        to present to him vegetables and all beautiful flowers.- Offerings of Thutmose III to Amon-Ra (1500 BCE)

                        Diversify & prosper


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                        • #13
                          I can't understand why such stuff is still available . you'd think with all the 'elf and safety rules etc it would've been banned . You're not allowed to contaminate someones air by smoking but you can contaminate their food with weedkiller ........
                          S*d the housework I have a lottie to dig
                          a batch of jam is always an act of creation ..Christine Ferber

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                          • #14
                            ^ Monsanto is a very big, very powerful company. They will resist all attempts to get their products (Round Up, GM seeds) banned.

                            (Incidentally, if you read the Wiki link, it isn't the glypho that's the main concern: it's the other additives)
                            Last edited by Two_Sheds; 19-03-2012, 08:08 AM.
                            All gardeners know better than other gardeners." -- Chinese Proverb.

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                            • #15
                              Yeah its supposed to be safe as it becomes inactive when in contact with soil. Believe that if you want but I am not totally sure about this. How many times over the years have companies/government said that products were safe to use, only to find out in later years that in fact they are not.

                              With that said, I feel a bit of a hypocrite as I do use it occasionally at home but only as a last resort for invasive weeds around my house and try to avoid using it around edible crops.
                              Plough Your Own Furrow

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