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Old 25-11-2007, 05:59 PM
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I have always had a problem with growing cabbages. I have some over-wintering plants in at the moment, and something is eating them. It looks like caterpillars, but I can't see any, and surely it is the wrong time of year for caterpillars?

Any thoughts on what I can do?

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Old 25-11-2007, 06:05 PM
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I have always had a problem with growing cabbages. I have some over-wintering plants in at the moment, and something is eating them. It looks like caterpillars, but I can't see any, and surely it is the wrong time of year for caterpillars?

Any thoughts on what I can do?

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I would not mind betting that the catterpillars that are eating your cabbage have got feathers on and have wings ie- pigeons unless you cover them with some sort of net if not they will scoff the lot jacob
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Old 25-11-2007, 06:23 PM
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Hi I did have caterpillars eating my cabbage leaves about a month ago, they were very tiny green ones. You will need to check the underside of your leaves for them, then pick them off and destroy them. I did have to keep doing this for a number of weeks before they had all gone. I have no idea whether they would still be active in November though.
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Old 25-11-2007, 07:01 PM
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Could be snails - pigeons strip the leaves back to the stalks. If the damage is lacy holes then if you can't see caterpillars it's probably snails. They climb, whereas slugs tend to stay at ground level.
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Old 25-11-2007, 07:10 PM
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I don't know, there are caterpillars still working in my garden and the birds are having a field day with them. It has been mild.
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Old 25-11-2007, 08:21 PM
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Yep i`m in the same boat. Still battling with caterpillars on my Duncan spring cabbages. Must be a new mutant hardy type as we have had a t least 4 good frosts here in Derby.
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Old 26-11-2007, 12:35 AM
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Ilikepumpkins, I think you have to give us a bit more detail about your problems growing cabbages. What kind of damage are they suffering ? Tell us more and I'm sure somebody will have the answer to your problem.
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Old 26-11-2007, 01:01 AM
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If it's slugs or snails then look for the tell tale slime trails, if it;s caterpillars then you would find them under the leaves. They would take on a colour very similar to the veg they are noshing on. My bet is the same as jacob marley, pigeons, they will do the trick every time, the little devils.
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Old 26-11-2007, 01:03 AM
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If it's pigeons - they're great in a red wine sauce.
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If it's pigeons - they're great in a red wine sauce.
He He. Nicely put Alice
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Old 26-11-2007, 10:04 AM
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Pigeons LOVE cabbages. Pigeons love almost anything small, in fact ¬¬

Back in the times when I had space to grow cabbages and the like, I used to put a stick, about 5 inches taller than the cabbages, on each corner of the patch. Then I would tie some strings betwen them, and them some more from side to side, thus creating a "honeycomb" pattern that prevented the winged suckers from landing in the patch.

Worked well for me... guess you can take them out with a BB or even a .22, but I just hate killing!
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Old 26-11-2007, 10:16 AM
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I net most young veg - we live in a farming area and the pigeons just thrive here.
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Old 26-11-2007, 10:23 AM
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Another advantage of using nets or any other cover instead of killing the flying predators... birds eat a lot of bugs! And they are very fond of snails and caterpillars.
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Old 26-11-2007, 10:25 AM
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If your net is fine enough the insects can't get in - so you don't get caterpillars on - they do need to be VERY fine though. Enviromesh does the trick.
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I put netting over my spring cabbages - the pigeons sat on it and ate the greens through the mesh, breaking several of the leaves and ruining half the crop.

How would they like it if I hung around the bird feeder and took their seed???
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Old 26-11-2007, 01:59 PM
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My cabbages have been dessimated - and the sprout tops have been munched by birds (I know because they left behind the tell-tale droppings!!). I hadn't put netting over the sprouts, but I did yesterday. Cabbages are being eaten by something, whatever it is it's hungry, and likely to be full of wind I'd wager! Luckily, it/they don't seem as fond of cauliflowers which are right next door and doing quite well.
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Not that it helps with the answer to your problem, but my cabbages didnt get above 4/5inches tall before they were gobbled up by, I think, caterpillars. Netting netting netting - my mantra for next year!! And at least you know you're not alone Ilikepumpkins!
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A combination of Enviromesh & organic slug pellets has kept my brassicas really healthy, we're eating kale & savoy cabbages already, with minimal damage. The sprouts are growing a bit more slowly, but hopefully there'll be some ready for Christmas! The mesh also protects from wind damage, and gives a little frost protection (only a degree or so), so I think it has been a good investment - we bought it from Harrod Horticultural as you can order it by the metre.
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Old 28-11-2007, 12:42 AM
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The problem is probably due to pigeons. Cover them with netting.
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