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    Last year I grew my first (very small) amount of veg and didn't really think about how to get a continual supply. This left me with lots of things to harvest one week, and nothing the next. This year I am determined to do better at this. There are only two of us, and I will be growing everything in pots (we are in a rented house) so have limited amount of space.

    I am wondering what needs to be sown a little each week and what plants will actually keep producing lots of fruit (and therefore maybe the plants do not need to be replaced, or if they do, there is no need to sow another one for some time). Any advice would be much appreciated.

    So far I have:
    • 8 Early Onward pea plants sown 4 weeks ago. I would like to have as continuous a supply of these as possible, I know 8 plants will not produce much, but even a little bit would be nice. When should I sow the next plants to replace these ones? I think they crop 12-14 weeks after they are sown?
    • 5 broad bean plants sown 7 weeks ago. Same as above really, when should I plant replacement plants for when these ones finish cropping?
    • 7 gardeners delight tomato plants sown 7 weeks ago. I think I only really have space to have tomatoes in grow bags and only a max of 2 growbags. I think a growbag will take three plants? Should I sow some more plants to replace these later or will the plants I have continue cropping all summer?
    • 5 California wonder red pepper plants sown 7 weeks ago. Same again really, will these crop all summer or do I need to sow more at some point? We eat lots of peppers (at least 4 a week) if i helps to know that.
    • 7 cayenne red chilli plants sown 7 weeks ago. Same again, do I need to sow some more at some point or will each of these plants produce lots of fruit?
    • Lots of red onions and garlic. Not planning on sowing any more of these as what I do have will hopefully store well to feed us through the autumn and hopefully into winter.
    • Some first early and main crop potatoes. Again, no plans to plant anymore of these due to space


    Now I also want to sow (this week):
    • Corgettes. I know one plant produces a lot, so if I were to sow one now, when would you think I would need to sow another to replace the first plant - if at all?
    • Basil. I would like a good supply of this as I use it a lot. Will one basil plant survive lots of cutting, or should I sow another in a months time?
    • Beetroot (Boltardy). Fiancee hates this so it's just for me, I thought I would sow two per week for my salads?
    • Lettuce (a few different varieties - Round, Chartwell and Lollo Rosso). Again, I thought I would maybe just sow every week, for enough of each lettuce per week based on what we eat. Does this sound OK?
    • Spring Onions. Same again, I estimate we maybe eat about 10-12 spring onions a week so If I sow this many on a weekly basis it should be perfect?
    • Purple Sprouting Brocolli. Really have no idea how much each seed of this would produce? Any advice appreciated.
    • Radishes. Again, maybe estimate on what we would eat? 5 or 6 sown per week?


    I realise that is a long list but any advice would be really appreciated as it would be great to have a steady supply.

    I know what I have planned is by no means going to keep up totally stocked up on everything we eat, but I think this amount is doable with the space we have. I also have 2 blowaways in which to sow the new seeds each week before transplanting into bigger containers.

    Thanks in advance for your help
    Last edited by Wonky; 03-04-2011, 03:52 PM.
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    peppers/tomatoes/chillies, don't sow any more, they all ripen roughly the same time, in july/august/spetember/october, depending. If you want more tomatoes, when they're bigger, take out a side-shoot and plant that.
    Spring onions sow every couple of weeks. Beetroot, you probably need to sow more than two because not every seed will grow on, and you need to watch for slugs and snails eating your seedlings.
    PSB, each seed that grows will turn into one big plant. Not really grown it for me, so no idea when yours will crop, but it's more of a feb/march/april crop than a summer one.
    Basiul, sow a few seeds per pot, and when they get to about 6/12 inches, pinch out the top leaves and it will become bushy rather than leggy. They like hot weather though, unless you're keeping it indoors, hold off on the sowing for now.
    Courgettes, don't sow until 4 weeks before your last frost, or at the time of your last frost. They hate cold weather, and they will die if you put them outside and they get frosted.

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    • #3
      With lettuce, you could try a cut and come again variety, and pick salad leaves rather than whoe lettuce?

      I don't grow lettuces anymore, just containers of cut and come again, and pick it as I need it.

      I reckon sowings every three weeks would see you right through summer.
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      • #4
        I'm having a nightmare trying to continuously sow so I don't have a blank month. Is my problem that I don't have enough ground space to sow a continuous crop? For example, my lettuce bed will only hold 20 lettuces maximum. Right now I have about 40 in the greenhouse waiting to go out. Should I be ruthless and cut them down to 10, then start another 10 this week? If that's a good idea, should I do this for everything I have in the greenhouse? (40 Brussels Sprouts, 60 leeks, and 30 Cabbages). Because I have no room left in the GH, I can't start my parsnips. Thought I had this cracked.
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        • #5
          Chef, use cut-and-come-again lettuces (looseleaf, not a hearting one) and just pick leaves as you need them: the plant will grow more

          40 sprout plants, are you kidding?
          Each one takes up a square metre near enough, same with cabbages... and you have to net them

          sprouts, leeks and cabbages have no need to be in the gh anyway, get them outside.
          All gardeners know better than other gardeners." -- Chinese Proverb.

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          • #6
            Cheers Two Sheds Will get them out tomorrow. 1sqm means I have 35 plants spare all in individual pots LOL Guess i'm going to have a half full GH tomorrow now Thanks again.
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            • #7
              Welcome

              now your gh is empty you can take some of Minamoo's 90 spare tomato plants
              Last edited by Two_Sheds; 06-04-2011, 07:16 PM. Reason: rampant apostrophes
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              • #8
                Re the lettuce, if you don't want to just have cut and come again then you need to sow a few seeds every couple of weeks. I tend to sow 2 seeds in each of a 6 cell module every two weeks and then thin to the strongest. When they're a reasonable size I plant out and that does the two of us over the summer. At the moment I'm starting them in the cold greenhouse but later in the year they'll be still sown in modules (to avoid slugs) but on some staging outside.

                Some of us live in the past, always talking about back then. Some of us live in the future, always planning what we are going to do. And, then there are those, who neither look behind or ahead, but just enjoy the moment of right now.

                Which one are you and is it how you want to be?

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                • #9
                  Oh and with peas, I sow about 50 or 60 every 3 weeks to get a decent ongoing crop. Usually have 5 rows like this plus an earlier few in the polytunnel.

                  Some of us live in the past, always talking about back then. Some of us live in the future, always planning what we are going to do. And, then there are those, who neither look behind or ahead, but just enjoy the moment of right now.

                  Which one are you and is it how you want to be?

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                  • #10
                    Thanks for all of the advice! I feel like I am finally getting somewhere in planning what I can do with the space I have.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Chef_uk View Post
                      I'm having a nightmare trying to continuously sow so I don't have a blank month.

                      For example, my lettuce bed will only hold 20 lettuces maximum. Right now I have about 40 in the greenhouse waiting to go out.
                      Can you eat 40 lettuces in a 2 or 3 week period? I sow 18 lettuces every fortnight. 6 each of three different varieties (Cos, Iceberg and Webbs types). They come-ready at different times, and despite my good intentions of sowing every 2 weeks it doesn't happen! so we generally have enough

                      40 Brussels Sprouts, 60 leeks, and 30 Cabbages
                      60 leeks I expect you will be able to eat (we grow more than that), but I only grow about a dozen Sprouts and a dozen or so Cabbage.

                      Depends what you like, of course, but I think you should plan based on the length of time the Harvest Season is (for Summer Cauliflowers they won't "stand", once ready, for more than a fortnight), and how many you can eat - so for Cauliflower don't grow more than you can eat / freeze in a fortnight, and sow some more every fortnight. Sprouts will stand all Winter (generally speaking) and Cabbages for a long time too.

                      Keep a record of dates : Sown, Germinated, Pricked out, Planted out (if grown in pots, otherwise just the date sown), and the First/Last harvest date, and the number of plants. Make a note of whether you like the flavour, and if there were too many / too few. Then next year you will be able to plan better, and grow more/fewer according to how it went the previous year.

                      If you raise plants in pots the Sow / Plant dates will tell you when the plot needs to be ready (so you can be raising plants that will go in immediately after another crop finishes)

                      The Germinate date will tell you when to look in the airing cupboard for signs of germination

                      The PrickOut date will tell you when you should sow in order to avoid seedlings needing to be pricked out when you go away for a weekend break
                      Last edited by Kristen; 06-04-2011, 09:14 PM.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Alison View Post
                        if you don't want to just have cut and come again then you need to sow a few seeds every couple of weeks.
                        Or, sow a tray of them, and plant a couple out every couple of weeks. They'll stay little in the trays/modules
                        All gardeners know better than other gardeners." -- Chinese Proverb.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Two_Sheds View Post
                          Welcome

                          now your gh is empty you can take some of Minamoo's 90 spare tomato plants
                          Teehee! I have erred on the side of caution and optimism with my courgette and squash seeds. I assumed that all the seeds will grow and only planted two seeds of each variety. If they don't come up I'll plant more. But at least I won't end up with hundreds of courgette plants!! lol!
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