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    Right guys, to try to avoid the debarcle of the 12 leggy and mouldy chilli's that I have just had to throw away, please offer any advice or comments on the following that I have just finished.

    1. I recovered 5 of the shorter germinated chilli's that had no signs of mould and each had two leaves on. I teased them out of the heated prop' tray and into 3 1/2 inch pots of seed soil and I've put them on to a bright window sill in a heated bedroom.

    I plan to give them about half a cup of water a day and to have a desk light with an energy saving light bulb on them, but plan to turn it off at night, for obvious reasons.

    What should you look for when deciding how much to water a plant?

    2. I have thinly sewn some onion seeds into a tray and covered with 1/2 an inch of seed soil and placed in the HP. I expect them to germinate in a couple of weeks, at which point I plan open the vent slowly over a week and place the HP in a better lit room.

    I will then tease the onion plants out and place them into pots with compost in and water as above, maybe a little more. What size pots anybody?

    When should these be put outside or can they stay indoors and will I need to repot into bigger pots when the roots start to show at the bottom?

    3. I have planted 5 tomato seeds in a HP tray, pointy bit bown along side 5 sweet chilli's and covered with 1/2 an inch of seed soil. I expect them to germinate in a week or so, at which point I will move them to a well lit heated room and open the vent progressively more over a week. I will then repot the plants into 3 1/2 inch pots and place on a sunny window sill.

    4. I have planted 5 x single garlic cloves, shoot upwards and the clove just below the surface of the compost into 5 1/2 inch pots.

    I am hoping just watering these will be sufficient, but should these, or any of the above, be given any fertiliser/food?
    Last edited by Ringo Grumio Nibbler; 09-01-2010, 02:51 PM.

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    Hi there, it's your seed sowing buddy here!! They shouldn't need any food now until they start producing fruit. I tend to water my seedlings from underneath, that way they draw up as much or little as they need. Seems to stop them wilting. As soon as I see them popping through the soil, I take them out of the propagator and leave them to develop further. When they have reached their second pair of leaves stage, I then pot them on. Hope this helps.
    AKA Angie

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    • #3
      I'll give it a try, cheers.

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      • #4
        Re the onions and garlic; these do not need a heated propagator.

        The garlics should be outdoors anyway.

        The onions should be nowhere near heat - room temps will do. Once they are germinated, don't tease them out - leave them in the pots until they go into their final position.

        Tomatoes do not really need heated props; only Chillis need the initial heat [and they still don't really need it].

        The thing that happens if you give seeds to much heat is that they grow too fast and get all leggy and sappy; grow them slower and harder and they will be stronger once they are outside.

        Water into a saucer and if the water is still there after 30 mins, tip it out.
        Last edited by zazen999; 09-01-2010, 03:40 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by zazen999 View Post
          Re the onions and garlic; these do not need a heated propagator.

          The garlics should be outdoors anyway.

          The onions should be nowhere near heat - room temps will do. Once they are germinated, don't tease them out - leave them in the pots until they go into their final position.

          Tomatoes do not really need heated props; only Chillis need the initial heat [and they still don't really need it].

          The thing that happens if you give seeds to much heat is that they grow too fast and get all leggy and sappy; grow them slower and harder and they will be stronger once they are outside.

          Water into a saucer and if the water is still there after 30 mins, tip it out.
          Many thanks for your help.

          Garlic outside even in this weather?

          I have taken the onions out of the HP, but it would be right chew on to take the toms out, as they are sharing a tray with some chilli's that I want to leave in, but I plan to remove everything from the HP as soon as they are through.

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          • #6
            I don't own an HP and have no trouble germinating tomatoes or chillies. The toms I planted on the 27th December are through and the chillies are just starting to show so will move onto a sunny windowsill in the next few days.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Ringo Grumio Nibbler View Post

              Garlic outside even in this weather?
              Yes, they are perfectly hardy.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by zazen999 View Post
                Yes, they are perfectly hardy.
                Yep, mine appear fine under half a ton of snow! Planting out when the ground is frozen solid might be a bit tricky though...........
                WPC F Hobbit, Shire police

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by FionaH View Post
                  Yep, mine appear fine under half a ton of snow! Planting out when the ground is frozen solid might be a bit tricky though...........
                  You missed my other post. To top off my seed planting addiction, I'm moving house, probably in late February, so everything must either be portable or suitable for donation to the new occupiers. I'd rather the former than the latter, obviously.
                  Last edited by Ringo Grumio Nibbler; 09-01-2010, 06:03 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Garlic cloves can go in a pot if you don't want them in the ground.

                    I left mine on a windowsill until sprouting green bits: now they're on the back step under an inch of snow, but looking perfectly healthy
                    All gardeners know better than other gardeners." -- Chinese Proverb.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Two_Sheds View Post
                      Garlic cloves can go in a pot if you don't want them in the ground.

                      I left mine on a windowsill until sprouting green bits: now they're on the back step under an inch of snow, but looking perfectly healthy
                      and that's exactly where I've moved them to now.

                      What about the onions guys, once they germinate, then what?
                      Last edited by Ringo Grumio Nibbler; 09-01-2010, 06:04 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Ringo Grumio Nibbler View Post
                        What about the onions guys, once they germinate, then what?
                        Mine go into the (very) cold greenhouse
                        All gardeners know better than other gardeners." -- Chinese Proverb.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Two_Sheds View Post
                          Mine go into the (very) cold greenhouse
                          in what size pots and are they in standard compost twosheds?

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                          • #14
                            um. whatever pots I have handy, and ditto compost
                            All gardeners know better than other gardeners." -- Chinese Proverb.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Two_Sheds View Post
                              um. whatever pots I have handy, and ditto compost
                              I just thought that as they are a large bulb, there would be a minimum size pot to allow them to flourish.

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