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Old 14-04-2007, 01:23 PM
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Are they worth it? I'm getting to the point where my little greenhouse at home is full along with the window sills in the house and I still have stuff to start off indoors. I've got a greenhouse on my lottie but I won't have time to go down there twice a day to open and close the doors - I can go down inthe evenings to water. I'm concidering gettint two vents one for each side of the greenhouse. Would this keep the temperature down enough or should I just get up earlier and go twice every day?
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Old 14-04-2007, 01:44 PM
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Same problem as me, just bought myself a max min thermometer and I was hoping it would be warm enough at night to take more seedlings down. I had left the window open because of the daytime temps but its far to cold at night still with the window open, so I will be looking forward to replies to your post.
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Old 14-04-2007, 02:09 PM
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I have one on the top window in my 6X6 greenhouse and I find it very good. helps a lot to keep the temparture down. i also have lovre windows in the side but I open them manually, they get the air circulating through. i would say yes they are worth it. Had mine 4 years now you set it to the temprature you want it to open at by just turning the black handle thingy, its easy and it will come with instructions . You must protect it from the cold in winter I just wrap mine in bubble wrap and cardboard, making sure any wet can drain form the bottom and not freeze.
They cost £19.99 from an Argos Extra Store
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Old 14-04-2007, 04:20 PM
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Hi Nicky

I just fitted one as its been so hot in there this week and don't always have the time to go down every morning before work.

It seems to work ok so far and was easy to fit (once I had drilled out the old seized bolts on the old closer). It keeps the temperature down well, but I think once summer comes I may need to go and open the door, or fit some side louvres to create some airflow.

My only problem so far is that a bird got in and the window closed down on it, thankfully I managed to get it out. I am thinking of trying to attach some netting on the window to stop this happening again.

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Old 14-04-2007, 07:30 PM
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I've got auto openers for a top window in the roof and a louvre in the opposite side. Had them about 8 years and use them every summer. Bit early for me to attach them normally but seeing as it's been so hot recently sorted them last week which meant that by the time I looked in the greenhouse about 11ish today there was a good air flow keeping the temperature down a bit. The bigger concern at the moment is the extent to which the temperature drops at night even after the windows have closed. It's still too cold for some plants (round here anyway) so be careful what you leave out there.
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Old 14-04-2007, 08:55 PM
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Both of my greenhouses have them fitted, I wouldn't be without them
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Old 14-04-2007, 09:02 PM
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At this time of year the automatic window opener is invaluable and does keep the temperature down to a satisfactory level. In very hot days in summer it's not enough and I do have to open the door. I wouldn't be without them - stopped many a plant from frying.
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Old 14-04-2007, 09:40 PM
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I only get up the plot every few days. My greenhouse has an autovent. Marvellous thing once fitted. You can adjust the temp on these so for summer just lower the temp at which it opens to save the heat building up too much. Mine survived last summer ok. I just open the door for extra air when I do get up there. I figure by summer when its hot you've only got the heat lovers in there anyway, everything else has already moved out.
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Old 15-04-2007, 12:21 AM
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Oh yes, very worthwhile.

Kays is cheaper than Argos though.
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Old 15-04-2007, 01:40 AM
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I wouldn't be without them. There's four in the roof of my big 16ft x 8ft greenhouse. On hot days, like now, I'll leave the double doors open, and both of the low-level 'louvre-vents' open too, and it can still reach temperatures to kill a plant.
I don't think that ventilation should be overlooked at all in the health and well-being of plants. Ventilate as much as possible......
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Old 15-04-2007, 10:35 AM
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Hmmm... people are talking of air flow. I've got a 6 x 8 green house and it's only got the one window. I was looking on various sites yesterday at vents and stuff but couldn't find anyone selling and extra window so I could have two.
I could find lovres to fit in but they need more expensive opening bits.
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Old 15-04-2007, 05:34 PM
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If you have problems with 'wildlife' get some metal netting - the sort that the americans use as 'screen doors' and make covers for the vents - it will prevent butterflies, wasps, cars, dogs, foxes and small children! from getting in. That way if you have an auto vent (wonderful thing!) you don't have to worry - also later in the season you can leave the greenhouse door open, but not have all the problems!

As an aside if you are putting in a high level vent, you should consider a low level vent to get air moving across the plants and reduce the risk of still air moulds such as botritis.
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Old 16-04-2007, 09:27 AM
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They cost £19.99 from an Argos Extra Store
£16.99 in Homebase when I was over a few weeks ago. They are invaluable. A low louvre and a top window both open is much better than 2 top windows open - it will be worth the extra expense.
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Old 16-04-2007, 11:39 AM
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I've been thinking about getting an auto-vent for all the reasons mentioned above - do they all fit any make of greenhouse? I'm liking the sound of the Homebase or Argos one but concerned they might not last very long, or not fir my model?

Anyone know?
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Old 16-04-2007, 11:52 AM
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Maybe is the answer!

Generally if you have a common make of greenhouse the Agros and Homebase autovents should fit. However you might find that the holes in the greenhouse strut are not correct, at which oint you would have to drill new hole. While awkward, this is not difficult, do remember to use a drill bit appropriate to the job.
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Old 16-04-2007, 12:56 PM
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..and maybe take the glass out before drilling to be on the safe side. (I'm a coward so did that)
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Old 16-04-2007, 09:32 PM
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Maybe is the answer!

Generally if you have a common make of greenhouse the Agros and Homebase autovents should fit. However you might find that the holes in the greenhouse strut are not correct, at which point you would have to drill new hole. While awkward, this is not difficult, do remember to use a drill bit appropriate to the job.
...like a High Speed Steel (HSS) twist drill to drill through the frame (aluminium or wood, makes no difference). And do take the glass out first, it will shatter if you do try and drill it with one of these.

"Agros" - seems a much more appropriate name than "Argos"!
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Old 16-04-2007, 11:46 PM
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I've got two on my greenhouse roof and could'nt do without them. The sun shines on the greenhouse first thing in the morning and one of them is usually open if i am not up early.
I also have double doors which also help the flow of air.
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Old 19-04-2007, 03:10 PM
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They are fantastic, and well worth the money.

One thing I've noticed with mine is that there is a significant delay in the speed with which they work. On a sunny morning th temperature has reached 25C before mine start to open. During the day they are fully open at anything above 22C, and in the evening, the temperature can be down at 10C before they are fully closed.

Worth keeping an eye on when you try to get the opimum temperature to set them at...
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Old 19-04-2007, 09:31 PM
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I suppose that would be due to the material in the piston taking time to warm up from cold and then cool down - what is in the pistons, is it oil?
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Old 20-04-2007, 02:19 PM
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The one I have on my louvre wasn't working properly the other year and I went to buy a new one. Fortunately DIY shop didn't have any in as OH attacked the old one with a can of WD40 and it's been fine ever since so am guessing that you should service them now and again!
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what is in the pistons, is it oil?

Wax.
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Old 22-05-2007, 07:14 AM
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We fitted our second one last night. Fitting the first one caused enough rows that Kofi Annan had to be brought in to mediate. Eventually we got it on and it works beautifully.

You'd think we knew what we were doing fitting the second ! (even Kofi wasn't taking our calls).

I now have a strategically placed wad of bubble wrap stuck to the pane with uv/weather resistant tape to stop it banging against the pane of glass. I fully expect to come home from work tonight finding a million bits of (toughened) glass all over the toms. The weight of the first one seemed to be enough to pull it off the glass. I think the triple spring in the second is that bit stronger that it won't "drop".

I have a well known make of greenhouse (Hall's), and these were a well known brand of auto vents (Bayliss). I shall be writing to both manufacturers and suggesting they talk to each other about getting the damn holes to even vaguely match.

(note to self: must remember to loosen the net shading over the new side to allow for expansion).

I'm sure they are wonderful inventions but they won't get the Nobel Peace prize from me this year.

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