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Old 27-08-2006, 09:12 PM
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Got the Dobies catalogue today and they have a couple of superb scented roses. Never grown roses before (well not proper roses, just rosa rugosa hedging) and have just got a new area of landscaped gravel for seating next to the greenhouse.

Could I grow an old fashioned rose in a pot? Would be lovely around the seating area if they are so scented. Any special compost needed? Grateful for any advice.
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Old 27-08-2006, 09:15 PM
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theyre not Ideal for growing in pots JA. Can't you plant them in the ground?
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I could, but they would not be by the seating area. I suppose I ought to get them and try them in a border.

Thanks for the advice Nick - I thought I had not generally seen roses in pots.
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Old 27-08-2006, 09:19 PM
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Another option would be to get a large diameter sewer pipe (preferably terracotta but owt would do & then grow them in that in something like a John Innes compost with added Muck.
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Roses will grow in pots, but they need to be BIG pots! You would also need to be careful as to which variety you try. Have a chat with Dobies, or better still David Austin Roses as they are the people who breed the old fashioned ones! Peter Beales is another breeder and very helpful - just down the road from me actually!

If you want a lovely smell and a brilliant colour Gertrude Jeykl is absolutely brilliant! It might work in a pot!
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Old 27-08-2006, 11:20 PM
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Ferdinand Pichard is another thats good. It's two tone pink !!!
http://www.davidaustinroses.com/engl....asp?showr=358

But I don't think you can beat the old Gloire de dijon
http://www.davidaustinroses.com/engl....asp?showr=411

Or The Prince
http://www.davidaustinroses.com/engl...asp?showr=1161
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Hello Jennie, I don't think roses do too well in pots. I know you have difficult climatic conditions there in Shetland, not too much sunshine which roses love. I have a rose which does well on a north facing wall, that is, where the sun never shines. Zepherin Drouhin, pink, gorgeous, scented and thornless. Might be just the job for you. It might be allright in a pot for a season or two if not in the long term. But when you look at the price of a bunch of flowers, it could be very good value for money even if it only did well for one year in a pot.
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Jennie, you could grow the minature ( patio roses ) in pots but i would'nt personally grow roses in pots as they will do so much better in the ground.
Apart from the colour make sure the ones you choose have a good perfume, and also look for ones that may flower twice in the year, ie in June and again in September.
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this is the pale pink sport of Zepherine Droughin

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Hi Jennie - you can grow a rose in a pot but the pot needs to have a depth of about 45cm at least. John Innes No 3 is best and an occasional feed with rose fertilizer. You might have to repot into fresh compost every 3 years.
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Thanks alot for all that advice - and some LOVELY roses! Think I'll just order them and get them in the garden border and move the seat over to them!

The landscaping is finished today and its rather a large gravel area, so I'm going to have to soften it somehow and need a bit of height. Its nice though .......... ! Sat on my bench in a sea of gravel tonight and had a G&T and dreamt of being surrounded by lovely flowers. Perhaps in a few years !
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Lavender would be good JA. And some Lady's Mantle (alchemilla Mollis)
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Hi Jennie, I've got a 'Gertrude Jekyl' rose in a large pot & it does O.K apart from a touch of blackspot which every rose seems to get in my garden no matter where it's planted! It's just in multipurpose compost & I just feed it with tomato food every so often.
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Old 29-08-2006, 01:31 PM
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That sounds good Sue. How big is the pot?
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hi Sue a , article in one of last sundays papers said to spray all affected bushes with jayes Fluid. Gather up any leaves that have fallen on the ground and burn them. Also warer around the affected area with a mixture of Jayes Fluid. this should help.
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It's only in about a 12" pot Jennie & is about 3 years old so might need re-potting soon but it seems happy enough.
Thanks Bramble, I might get some Jeyes fluid. not keen on spraying the rose but I could certainly clean around the pot & decking it's on with it!
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There are some nice compact varieties out there that should do quite well, but the advice I've had from other people in the far north is that the only roses that do well are climbing roses. Having said that, I've been looking at roses myself! They'll probably need lots of coddling.
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Roses grow beat in clay soils!!!!!!!
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