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Thread: How do I produce a family apple tree

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    Default How do I produce a family apple tree

    I realise its a bit late now but next year I would like to produce a family apple tree on dwarf rootstock, maybe m26 or m27

    What is the process for doing this? Do I graft a single variety onto the rootstock and then regraft the other 2 onto the branched scion variety tree

    Or do I let the root stock grow out to have a branch structure and then then graft all 3 onto the rootstock?


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    I would do option 1 - graft on rootstock, then graft the graft. However I don't think either option would be wrong. Just with option 1 if you miss a branch etc somewhere down the line it will at least give desirable fruit.
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    It you have some failed grafts this year you could grow out a couple of the rootstock branches and try chip budding onto them later in the year, or saddle/cleft graft early next.

    I'm out of viable scions at the moment so I'm forming frameworks on a few older mm106's for grafting a few family trees later in the year / early next.
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    Thanks guys, great advise

    I suppose a third option if you have thick rootstocks would be to a double cleft graph with 2 different scions

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    Reading this thread as a newbie is like trying to decode an ultra secret coded message. I'm up to the Apple bit, after that I think someone ordered a special 32 with extra rice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NickG View Post
    Reading this thread as a newbie is like trying to decode an ultra secret coded message. I'm up to the Apple bit, after that I think someone ordered a special 32 with extra rice.
    Dont worry about it, its easy to pick up with a few hours research on youtube etc

    Im just a beginner muddling through

    Imnot trying to treat anyone as an idiot but just for clarification a family tree is where you have 2 or 3 variety of apples growing on the same tree and Id like to know the best way of creating one.

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    Have a range of trees on m27, m9, M26, M106 and m25 my advice would be not to do a family tree o M27. As it's so dwarfing that you wouldn't get much of any varieties if you had multiple ones on the same tree. I'd go for m26 as the smallest for a family tree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maverick451 View Post
    Thanks guys, great advise

    I suppose a third option if you have thick rootstocks would be to a double cleft graph with 2 different scions
    If the graft is low down like the ones I showed before, I would only do it on trained/supported trees. Once the tree has fruit there will be a lot of weight and pressure on the graft point.

    Reading this thread as a newbie is like trying to decode an ultra secret coded message. I'm up to the Apple bit, after that I think someone ordered a special 32 with extra rice.
    Don't worry it wasn't that long ago I felt the same and thought it was a secret world where only a few people were allowed The numbers just refer to rootstock (the bottom part of a tree) depending on what you have it primarily (but can give other qualities) affects the size of your final fruit tree. Scion is basically a bit a twig ya stick on it (the variety). Family means you have several variety but it doesn't sound very fun then
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