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    I have seen no mention of this story here, but it is of great importance to anyone who uses compost.

    29 June, 2008

    Home-grown veg ruined by toxic fertiliser
    Caroline Davies The Observer

    "Gardeners across Britain are reaping a bitter harvest of rotten potatoes, withered salads and deformed tomatoes after an industrial herbicide tainted their soil. Caroline Davies reports on how the food chain became contaminated and talks to the angry allotment owners whose plots have been destroyed.

    Gardeners have been warned not to eat home-grown vegetables contaminated by a powerful new herbicide that is destroying gardens and allotments across the UK.

    The Royal Horticultural Society (RHS) has been inundated with calls from concerned gardeners who have seen potatoes, beans, peas, carrots and salad vegetables wither or become grossly deformed. The society admitted that it had no idea of the extent of the problem, but said it appeared 'significant'. The affected gardens and allotments have been contaminated by manure originating from farms where the hormone-based herbicide aminopyralid has been sprayed on fields.

    Dow AgroSciences, which manufactures aminopyralid, has posted advice to allotment holders and gardeners on its website. Colin Bowers, Dow's UK grassland marketing manager, told The Observer that links to their products had been proved in some of the cases, but it was not clear whether aminopyralid was responsible for all of them and tests were continuing. 'It is undoubtedly a problem,' he said, 'and I have got full sympathy for everyone who is involved with this.'

    He said the company was unable to advise gardeners that it was 'safe' to consume vegetables that had come into contact with the manure because of pesticide regulations. 'All we can say is that the trace levels of aminopyralid that are likely to be in these crops are of such low levels that they are unlikely to cause a problem to human health.'

    The Dow website says: 'As a general rule, we suggest damaged produce (however this is caused) should not be consumed.' Those who have already used contaminated manure are advised not to replant on the affected soil for at least a year.

    Aminopyralid, which is found in several Dow products, the most popular being Forefront, a herbicide, is not licensed to be used on food crops and carries a label warning farmers using it not to sell manure that might contain residue to gardeners. The Pesticides Safety Directorate, which has issued a regulatory update on the weedkiller, is taking samples from affected plants for testing.

    Problems with the herbicide emerged late last year, when some commercial potato growers reported damaged crops. In response, Dow launched a campaign within the agriculture industry to ensure that farmers were aware of how the products should be used. Nevertheless, the herbicide has now entered the food chain. Those affected are demanding an investigation and a ban on the product. They say they have been given no definitive answer as to whether other produce on their gardens and allotments is safe to eat.

    It appears that the contamination came from grass treated 12 months ago. Experts say the grass was probably made into silage, then fed to cattle during the winter months. The herbicide remained present in the silage, passed through the animal and into manure that was later sold. Horses fed on hay that had been treated could also be a channel.

    Bryn Pugh, legal consultant at the National Society of Allotments and Leisure Gardeners, said he was preparing claims for some members to seek financial compensation from the manure suppliers. But it was extremely difficult to trace the exact origins of each contaminated batch. 'It seems to be everywhere. From what I know, it is endemic throughout England and Wales. We will be pressing the government to ban this product,' he said.

    Aminopyralid is popular with farmers, who spray it on grassland because it controls weeds such as docks, thistles and nettles without affecting the grass around them. It binds itself to the woody tissue in the grass and only breaks down when exposed to bacteria in the soil.

    Shirley Murray, 53, a retired management consultant with an allotment near Bushy Park in Hampton, south-west London, said several of her allotment neighbours had used the same manure bought from a stables and all were affected. 'I am absolutely incensed at what has happened and find it scandalous that a weedkiller sprayed more than one year ago, that has passed through an animal's gut, was kicked around on a stable floor, stored in a muck heap in a field, then on an allotment site and was finally dug into or mulched on to beds last winter is still killing "sensitive" crops and will continue to do so for the next year,' she said.

    'It's very toxic, it shouldn't get into the food chain. You try to be as organic as you can and we have poisoned ourfood. I've been everywhere, emailed all the right people, but nobody will speak on the record to guarantee what is safe to eat. We all think it is a scandal. Not to mention what it has cost in time and money.'

    Pesticide expert Professor Vyvyan Howard, a toxico-pathologist at Ulster University, said it was 'a very powerful herbicide' but in his opinion was 'unlikely to pose any human health risks'. However, advice about its use should be strengthened, he said. 'I think the thing that is going to drive this is the commercial damage that could be done to market gardeners,' he said.

    Guy Barter, the RHS head of horticultural advisory services, said they were receiving more than 20 calls a week. 'Our advice is not to eat the vegetables because no one seems to have any idea whether it is safe to eat them and we can't give any assurances,' he said. 'It is happening all over the country. A lot of cases we are seeing is where people have got manure from stables and the stable have bought their hay from a merchant, and the merchant might have bought hay from many farmers, possibly from different parts of the country. So they have no idea where the hay came from. So finding someone to blame is quite difficult.' Weedkiller in the soil should dissipate by next year, but in stacks of contaminated manure it might take two or more years to decay, he added.

    Dow is planning a major publicity campaign to reiterate warnings to farmers over usage, and to encourage allotment holders to check the provenance of manure that they put down in an effort to prevent the problem escalating. On compensation, it was less forthcoming. 'There is no easy answer to that,' said Bowers. 'The first port of call is always where the manure comes from. From that point on, I can't really comment.

    'The chain is horrendously complicated. In the cases we have managed to trace back, we might find that the farmer who supplied the manure didn't spray anything himself, but he might have bought in a couple of bales of silage from one of his neighbours, and that farm might have sprayed.'

    Robin and Christina Jones spread a large amount of manure over their flower garden and vegetable patch at their home in Banstead, Surrey. When the potatoes failed, Robin took a sample to the RHS, which identified aminopyralid. His neighbour, who bought from the same source, suffered the same problems. 'We have lost 80 per cent of our vegetable patch,' said Jones, 65, a retired sound engineer. Raspberries, French beans, onions, leeks, even a newly planted robina tree were all affected. 'We are distraught. But what worries me is that the courgettes look very healthy. Had we not had the problem with the potatoes, we might never have realised. Now we are advised not to eat them.

    'This is a very serious issue, and people must be made aware of the advice not to eat vegetables grown in contaminated manure.'

    Sue Ainsworth, 58, an education consultant, said around 20 allotments at her site in Hale, Cheshire, had been affected. 'We first noticed with the potatoes. As they came through, they were deformed, all curled over and rotten underneath. But the worry is that the courgettes also planted on the manure are fine - but are they safe to eat? This must have affected thousands of people. I am really worried about this product and really think it should be withdrawn.'

    She said the farmer who supplied the manure said he had used nothing unusual. 'But he may have bought in the straw and genuinely knew nothing about the herbicide used.'

    Susan Garrett, 57, an IT consultant, said 20 plots were affected at her allotment in Wakefield, West Yorkshire. 'And that is just the plants we can see are damaged. We are angry it has been allowed to happen - not with the chemical company, but because there doesn't seem to be any protection for us or anything to stop it happening again.'"


    How should you deal with the affected area?
    Experts say rotovation is the best practice, or forking over several times as soon as possible. This incorporates the plant tissue into the soil, where it will decompose and the chemicals will eventually be degraded by soil microbes. Repeat the rotavation in late summer/early autumn.

    Should you replant this season?
    No. The plant residues need to be given time to break down. The advice is not to replant for a year.

    Why has the chemical lasted so long?
    Aminopyralid, like other herbicides, works by binding strongly to plant tissues. Once the plant's tissues decay, the chemical breaks down in the soil. If manure is stacked it takes far longer.

    Also see:
    Contaminated vegetables: who's to blame?
    Last edited by beesontoast; 01-07-2008, 07:28 PM.
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  • #2
    Just before I start I am not FOR this type of herbicide. Maybe all herbicides are BAD. I don't know. But I hate this style of misinformation and finger-pointing I particularly hate journalists who sensationalise their copy and pay lip service to the facts (in this case there are a couple of accurate, succinct and useful paragraphs at the bottom of a long diatribe of sensationalism, and I doubt many people who got that far read them in a balanced fashion). The conclusion I draw is that Caroline Davies, of the The Observer, was told to increase sale by her editor that morning.

    So with that:

    "I have seen no mention of this story here"

    Did you do a search?

    I searched for "aminopyralid" and got:

    http://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gra...t=aminopyralid

    http://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gra...t=aminopyralid

    "The society admitted that it had no idea of the extent of the problem, but said it appeared 'significant"

    Typical journalist sensationalism. I have no idea whether it is significant, maybe it is. But on the basis that you say you have "no idea of the extent of the problem" how can you then, as a revered and authoritative body [which I definitely consider the RHS to be], say that is it "significant"? Tosh.

    "He said the company was unable to advise gardeners that it was 'safe' to consume vegetables that had come into contact with the manure because of pesticide regulations"

    Tosh again. It's got nothing to do with "pesticide regulations", it is purely and simply because Dow never tested that particular set of scenarios, because they didn't need to. They DID test that any manure was NOT safe, so their instructions say NOT to use the manure on those crops. If people then USE it (or more probably the farmer FAILS to tell people NOT to use it), then its hardly something that Dow SHOULD have been expected to exhaustively test.

    Should they have expected that this might happen, and have quite possibly ducked the issue on? Yes, probably IMHO. But I'm fed up enough with the Nanny state we are becoming without holding Dow's backside to the fire on this.

    "carries a label warning farmers using it not to sell manure that might contain residue to gardeners"

    Incorrect, or at best economical with the truth. The label says "... If grass, hay, silage, manure or slurry is exported off your farm, it is your responsibility to inform the recipient of this information ..." [my italics] where "this information" refers to a description of the crops that are effected, and the circumstances.

    "They say they have been given no definitive answer as to whether other produce on their gardens and allotments is safe to eat"

    Correct, as I described above. That's not Dow's problem, the onus / liability is with the farmers who did not follow the clear instructions on the product. Clearly this has happened "more than once" and some action is needed to a) educate people en masse so that they are cautious about buying Manure, and b) to make farmers more careful in making sure that they act on the information they are given whether from the label of products they use, or from a farmer they buy products, e.g. hay, from.

    "But it was extremely difficult to trace the exact origins of each contaminated batch. 'It seems to be everywhere"

    "It seems to be everywhere" - give me a break ...

    "Aminopyralid is popular with farmers, who spray it on grassland because it controls weeds such as docks, thistles and nettles without affecting the grass around them"

    Actually its closer to "miraculous", and does an excellent job. But the side effects, as noted above, are a huge price to pay - particularly if a farmer ignores them ...

    "I am absolutely incensed at what has happened and find it scandalous that a weedkiller sprayed more than one year ago, that has passed through an animal's gut, was kicked around on a stable floor, stored in a muck heap in a field, then on an allotment site and was finally dug into or mulched on to beds last winter is still killing "sensitive" crops and will continue to do so for the next year"

    Why is she incensed? That's exactly what the label on the product says it will do, quote:

    "Do not use animal waste (e.g. manure or slurry) from animals fed on grass treated with Forefront, or fodder resulting from grass treated with Forefront, on susceptible crops e.g. peas, beans and other legumes, sugar beet, carrots and umbelliferae, potatoes and tomatoes, lettuce and other compositae, or land intended for growing such crops" [my italics, again]

    "It's very toxic, it shouldn't get into the food chain."

    Here we go again, more fear-uncertainty-and-doubt. "Very toxic"? to what? certain plants? Yes the label says that. Humans? No, no one knows; no tests have been carried out. The cows and horses that ate it are fine (or I am sure we would have heard). I have no idea whether humans eating it will be fine, or not. And the journalist who wrote this tripe doesn't know either (because if she DOES know I'm sure she would have CITED her sources/evidence)

    "Pesticide expert Professor Vyvyan Howard, a toxico-pathologist at Ulster University, said it was 'a very powerful herbicide' but in his opinion was 'unlikely to pose any human health risks'"

    So is the journalist saying that she did NOT intend to imply it was toxic to humans earlier in the article? or what?

    "Weedkiller in the soil should dissipate by next year, but in stacks of contaminated manure it might take two or more years to decay, he added."

    That part is, to the best of my knowledge and based on the research I have done, is correct, and is highly worthy of note for anyone effected. The product needs to be in contact with soil to break down, piling it up is not going to efficiently degrade/denature it.

    "Dow is planning a major publicity campaign to reiterate warnings to farmers over usage, and to encourage allotment holders to check the provenance of manure that they put down in an effort to prevent the problem escalating"

    Excellent. A cock-up has happened, making people aware of it so they can avoid getting caught out is a good first step.

    "the farmer who supplied the manure didn't spray anything himself, but he might have bought in a couple of bales of silage from one of his neighbours, and that farm might have sprayed."

    Again, the instructions on the herbicide are clear: "If grass, hay, silage, manure or slurry is exported off your farm, it is your responsibility to inform the recipient of this information". The onus, and liability, is on the farmer who used the spray, and anyone further down the chain whom he informed.

    "I am really worried about this product and really think it should be withdrawn"

    Maybe it should, but please! not on the sensationalism of an article by a journalist.

    "She said the farmer who supplied the manure said he had used nothing unusual. 'But he may have bought in the straw and genuinely knew nothing about the herbicide used"

    This is getting boring: the instructions for Forefront say "If grass, hay, silage, manure or slurry is exported off your farm, it is your responsibility to inform the recipient of this information"

    And finally the article says: "How should you deal with the affected area?
    Experts say rotovation is the best practice, or forking over several times as soon as possible. This incorporates the plant tissue into the soil, where it will decompose and the chemicals will eventually be degraded by soil microbes. Repeat the rotavation in late summer/early autumn.

    Should you replant this season?
    No. The plant residues need to be given time to break down. The advice is not to replant for a year.

    Why has the chemical lasted so long?
    Aminopyralid, like other herbicides, works by binding strongly to plant tissues. Once the plant's tissues decay, the chemical breaks down in the soil. If manure is stacked it takes far longer.
    "

    at last! the only grain of proper scientific information, but how many readers have bothered to read all the way to the bottom and make a rational judgement after the tirade of sensationalism earlier in the article?
    Last edited by Kristen; 01-07-2008, 11:48 PM.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Kristen View Post
      at last! the only grain of proper scientific information, but how many readers have bothered to read all the way to the bottom and make a rational judgement after the tirade of sensationalism earlier in the article?
      What is the judgement you would like us to make?

      I read the original article in the Observer and then did some googling and found the article to be concise and to the point.

      It is a big problem, try some googling. Our site has a about a third of 40 plots contaminated, some to a larger degree than others. I was late putting down the manure and my adjacent french beans are suffering. Sweet corn seems to be growing Ok through it. Others have seen problems mostly with potatoes.

      It is annoying when you wish to be as clean and close to organic as you can and then find a strong herbicide that has been through one huge animal already, still with potency, and could have gone through a smaller one "me".

      When the maker admits there is a problem and the RHS recognises there is a problem any publicity can only be a good thing.

      You are right to say all the warnings where there, but they where only made to the grass growers. The warnings where not given to any of the second users. Slack.

      It is us, the gardeners and allotmenteers, that are suffering and having wastage not the makers or the grass growers.
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      • #4
        "What is the judgement you would like us to make?"

        I'm very happy for you to make your own judgement.

        I agree it is a big problem. I live in the farming community but I have no time for a farmer who does not pass the information on the label, requiring him to do so, down the line (assuming that Dow have not recently added that requirement to the label [which is available to view on their website])

        I think it also brings all sorts of issues to light about companies labelling products "Organic" but who are buying in hay to compost which has come from non-organic sources, and Guess What is contaminated with a persistent herbicide

        But I despise journalism where it has to compete to sell "copy" and therefore sensationalism outweighs balanced argument, or learned opinion. Having said that the original article does have the salient facts, but right at the bottom after a not insignificant diatribe and folk may well not bother to read down to the bottom, and thus get left with just the sensational bit.

        We had dinner last night with a local farmer (farms about 2000 acres at a guess, so "large farming"). He knew nothing about it. He doesn't use the chemical on his farm ("I prefer the things that have been around a while, even if they are not quite as effective, because I get fewer surprises" were his words)

        I was concerned that whatever the farming-rag is that he reads hasn't caught his eye on this matter, yet because he is, in my opinion, pretty switched on as a farmer. Mind you, its a sample-size of one, and even I don't know everything

        "The warnings where not given to any of the second users."

        The onus to pass-on the information is clear on the product's label, but there is a thread in another forum where a farmer has given muck to someone else, who now has a problem. He had no knowledge of the effect on manure, and it seems that the instructions on his herbicide label say nothing about this, or his duty to pass the information on. Unfortunately that forum has been very slow in acknowledging my registration (still nothing), and I cannot ask him any direct questions to clarify that point, yet. If it turns out that Dow's original product [i.e. sold last year] had no such instructions then the blame will move up the food chain.
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        • #5
          I think this has been brought to our attention by at least 2 other posters here.
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          • #6
            toxic petition

            If you wish to add your voice to others please sign

            Martin

            Petition to: halt the use of Aminopyralid as a weed killer in british agriculture.

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            • #7
              Thank you for flagging that up Beesontoast. I did see the original article in the Observer and didn't think the Journalist was setting out to be sensational. I don't think it is just a matter of not using it on susceptible vegetables. That stuff is going into the food chain at every level.
              I was planning on getting a load of manure for my veg beds but I'll have to do some research first.

              From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.

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              • #8
                As one affected by this problem I have just stumbled upon this posting. I agree with the comment that the Observer did contain many inaccuracies - however this issue is very widespread and serious for the many of us to be affected. The e-petition that someone started now has over 1000 signatures which is fairly remarkable for something that hasn't made national headlines. I started by devoting a page on my web site to this but it has now become four pages due to the amount of infomation that I am receiving.

                The chemical company, the RHS and the Pesticides Safety Directorate all have access to the site and I have asked that any inaccuracies are brought to my attention - it deals in facts and I hope is subjective so anyone who wishes to know more may like to pay us a visit. The first page link is Manure Menu
                Last edited by glallotments; 11-02-2012, 02:58 PM.
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                • #9
                  The product has been withdrawn / banned. Not that that helps the education process for any herbicide used this year and to be found in Manure next year and probably the year after
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                  • #10
                    Kirsten.
                    The withdrawal is only temporary. I have checked this with DOW as I know at least one person who didn't believe this to be the case when I mentioned it elsewhere.

                    As you say even if it had been permanent gardeners will need to be careful when purchasing manure for the next couple of years. Grass will already have been sprayed this year and will be entering the silage chain. The chemical when stacked is a potential problems (according to vailable informatin at the moment) for several years to come. Also in seems some farmers don't know that they should no longer be using it so will continue unaware.
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                    • #11
                      Indeed, although I do think that IF the notification from fodder-farmer, or manure-producer, to consumer can be guaranteed the herbicide is of great benefit to the farmers that need it. If it can't then the ban will become permanent - so there's incentive!

                      None of the local farmers I have spoken to know anything about it. So I have to assume that within the farming community the communication on this subject has been c**p, which does not bode well.
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                      • #12
                        They are considering relicensing aminopyralid see here
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