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Old 19-03-2008, 04:29 PM
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Default Bramble & bindweed roots... when you say *every* bit...?

So, I've reached the stage of clearance on my lottie when I'm dealing with all the roots. Lots of people have told me I need to dig out 'every bit' of bramble and bindweed root to stop them regrowing. I need to ask... does that mean every last little tiny cotton thin bit of stuff? Or will it be good enough to get all the bits big enough to see without my glasses on? If it's the former, I may as well do it while I'm at it but if it's the latter, I can save a lot of time
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Old 19-03-2008, 05:44 PM
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Oh think it will be a job and half dig out 'every bit' of bramble and bindweed roots, i wish you every good luck
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Bramble....no idea!
Bindweed.....EVERY tiny weeny bit!!!!!

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Old 19-03-2008, 06:00 PM
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ive found that the more you dig at bindweed the more pieces it explodes into...apparently grave diggers have reported finding the roots more than six feet down. But good luck with that then, seriously, this is my second year and im still trying to persuade it to go elsewhere.
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Old 19-03-2008, 07:42 PM
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You'll get rid of bramble easy enough. Just dig down a few inches until you find a lumpy bit, where the stems and roots converge. Rip this out with as much root as you can, and it is unlikely to re-grow. Anything that does come back will be easy to pull up by hand.

As for bindweed, give up now. Life is too short
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I'll just fall on my Spear & Jackson Number 3 right now then shall I? Oh well, not like I've got anything better to do for the next 40 years or so
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Old 19-03-2008, 10:57 PM
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Weed weed and burn....
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Old 20-03-2008, 12:24 AM
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As Paul said dig out the crown of bramble and you've won.

Bindweed is a bore, but dig out what you can and you might try growing stuff through Mypex for a year or two. You will definately weaken it.... just got to keep at it i'm afraid. The trouble is when you plant long term crops. A good trick there is to train it up a cane then stuff it in a plastic bag and zap it with systemic weedkiller, pop on a laccy band and leave it.
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Old 20-03-2008, 09:40 AM
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Bindweed - Get Rid Of Every Single Shade Of It!!!!!!!!!!!
It Will Regrow And Regrow And Regrow And Regrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brambles Can Be Cut Off At The Base And Then Dig The Majority Out, You Shouldn't See It Again.
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Old 20-03-2008, 10:32 AM
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Get rid of the bulk of bindweed any any regrow kill off with glyphosate. To be honest I'd weedkiller it from the start. Brambles just dig out the bulk and any re grow should be easy enough to dig up later.
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I've been battling bindweed for four years now, I dug out what I could, and now I remove any regrowth as soon as I see it - and after a while you can see the first tiny shoot from miles away, you just need to get your eye in. I'm winning - sort of, but I know that it wouldn't take long for it to re-colonise the plot if I ever abandoned it. Unfortunately if - like me - you refuse to use herbicides then there's no other way, I tried covering the land, but it quickly regrows when the covers come off.
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Hi
Just moved into a new place and there is bindweed everywhere. It seems the previous owners took their philosophy of letting things self seed etc to extremes & just let it go. Help! Any top tips for a gardener who is now a bit depressed??
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Old 08-05-2008, 06:57 PM
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You'll get rid of bramble easy enough. Just dig down a few inches until you find a lumpy bit, where the stems and roots converge. Rip this out with as much root as you can, and it is unlikely to re-grow. Anything that does come back will be easy to pull up by hand.
Yes Paul, you can pull the new shoots up, but they keep regrowing every season - I don't like weedkillers, but I am seriously tempted with my brambles. As for the bindweed, I pull up every new shoot I see with as much as root as possible, and when the beds are dug over I get out as much root as I can find - it is getting better.
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I don't have any bindweed or brambles on my plots. Two years ago I bought some Roundup concentrate and made a tripple strength dose and sprayed it on. Bye-bye B and B.
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Thats why youre a rooter Norm.

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Old 08-05-2008, 07:51 PM
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Thats why youre a rooter Norm.
Not what I'm usually called
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Old 09-05-2008, 09:45 AM
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I took a plot on at christmas and when I started digging it over in Feb I found I have clay soil and a serious bindweed/coochgrass infestation. I don't think there could be a worse combination than bindweed and clay soil AND digging in February, the bindweed broke up very easily making it hard for me to get it out with such heavy soil.

I dug two beds in February that are now growing onions, shallots, garlic, carrots, parsnips and assorted catch crops in one bed and potatoes and jerusalem artichokes in the other. Both beds do have a few bindweed shoots popping up but I find that now the ground is dug I can usually get a hand fork into the offending area and root out any bindweed as it appears.

So as far as bindweed is concerned I'd say dig out as much as you can and get planting, so far it hasn't caused me any great problems other than a few garlics getting tangled up because the bindweed root is exactly where the garlic is planted.

Good luck to you and don't give up!!
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Old 09-05-2008, 03:08 PM
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I nearly gave up my allotment after the first year and a half due to bindweed but one of my neighbours a few years ago said that if you dig out as much as you can and keep hoeing any new shoots that come up, it will be gone in two years. He was almost right. If you can just keep on weeding the bindweed so that they do not see the sun, they weaken after two years and practically give up. It is much more managable now. Good luck
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Old 09-05-2008, 04:00 PM
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Ive just been reading about the Roundup stump and path clearer. It kills brambles also says that its the only thing that will kill bindweed to the root.
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We've given our couch grass and bindweed 3 doses of extra strength roundup, and we've burnt it, and covered it over with landscape fabric and woodchips and it's still growing.....

I'm just resigned to digging the ground over and picking the roots out, and weeding as usual. I'm sure eventually it'll go away!!
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Old 09-05-2008, 04:54 PM
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i have to say the only thing i have managed to grow successfully is bindweed
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Old 09-05-2008, 05:44 PM
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Hi, bindweed will creep in from pathways, the plot next door, or from deep underground. We have lots of it and in heavy clay it just snaps, so can't be removed completely- EVER!!! Life is definitely too short, so we just pull up the shoots when we see them, and keep pulling it. My father in law gave me a great piece of advice when I started gardening-no plant can survive without it's leaves, so keep pulling them off & the plant will eventually die. Has worked for everything-except bindweed. Learn to love it???

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