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    Has anyone come across these in the UK shops yet? They look stunning. I wonder if they'd come true from seed?

    Introducing the Enjoya Pepper
    Last edited by Zelenina; 15-12-2016, 08:36 PM.

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    I had some from asda earlier in the year and kept the seeds to try

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    • #3
      I haven't seen them, but I searched the web and it looks like they are an accidental cross found in 2013, if so, they could well run true otherwise it would be unlikely that they would have seed.

      Origin of Enjoya, the red/yellow striped pepper - Enjoya | Filled with Joy

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      • #4
        I've seen them in Asda... they are crazy expensive, although I can maybe justify that if I could save the seeds!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by MarkPelican View Post
          I haven't seen them, but I searched the web and it looks like they are an accidental cross found in 2013, if so, they could well run true otherwise it would be unlikely that they would have seed.
          Not necessarily. If it's a chance hybrid between two varieties of sweet pepper then it's likely to be fertile (produce seeds) but the seeds won't come true to type. But if it's a mutation of an existing variety then it might. If you've soil and space to spare then it's worth risking it... let us know how you get on!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mitzi View Post
            Not necessarily. If it's a chance hybrid between two varieties of sweet pepper then it's likely to be fertile (produce seeds) but the seeds won't come true to type. But if it's a mutation of an existing variety then it might. If you've soil and space to spare then it's worth risking it... let us know how you get on!
            What I'd thought was if they were an accidental cross but there were enough seeds created over a couple of years for the fruit to be commercially available, its unlikely that they wouldn't run true, one plant doesn't make a commercial crop and I wouldn't have thought they'd go to the effort of micro propagation.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by MarkPelican View Post
              What I'd thought was if they were an accidental cross but there were enough seeds created over a couple of years for the fruit to be commercially available, its unlikely that they wouldn't run true, one plant doesn't make a commercial crop and I wouldn't have thought they'd go to the effort of micro propagation.
              Ah, I see. I, on the other hand, had assumed they WOULD go to the effort of micro propagation.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by MarkPelican View Post
                What I'd thought was if they were an accidental cross but there were enough seeds created over a couple of years for the fruit to be commercially available, its unlikely that they wouldn't run true, one plant doesn't make a commercial crop and I wouldn't have thought they'd go to the effort of micro propagation.
                Ah, I see. I, on the other hand, had assumed they WOULD go to the effort of cloning in some form or another.

                Now I've found this:
                Enjoya media appearances - Enjoya | Filled with Joy

                "The peppers are grafted by hand, ripened slowly, and picked at just the right time." Grafted. So vegetatively propagated, not by seed.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Mitzi View Post
                  Ah, I see. I, on the other hand, had assumed they WOULD go to the effort of cloning in some form or another.

                  Now I've found this:
                  Enjoya media appearances - Enjoya | Filled with Joy

                  "The peppers are grafted by hand, ripened slowly, and picked at just the right time." Grafted. So vegetatively propagated, not by seed.
                  Seems somewhat OTT to me, going to the effort of grafting peppers that just look different, even at £1.99 for 2 peppers seems a lot of effort by the time you take into account the fact they ship from Holland but, I suppose the growers make more money from these than they would from ordinary red peppers.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Zelenina View Post
                    Has anyone come across these in the UK shops yet? They look stunning. I wonder if they'd come true from seed?

                    Introducing the Enjoya Pepper
                    I started some seeds last year and had some bonnie plants growing but I wasn't able to do much gardening summer and autumn so I don't know if they fruited even! Some other people were growing them last year too and all report yellow ripe fruit, no stripes.

                    I'm just catching up with these now, I decided to sow some more seeds on the vaguest chance of success, they are growing well but still very small plants. It's really not looking very hopeful, from what I understand, they were caused by a mutation in the fruit only which is unlikely to be heritable through seed. But there might be some chance of some other mutations showing up in the F2 plants grown.
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                    • #11
                      My Enjoya this year has fruited and ripened.

                      As per poly's comments, I wasn't expecting any striping to show up, and can now confirm this.

                      But I have got some lovely golden yellow sweet peppers
                      Last edited by Chris11; 12-01-2018, 03:27 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Chris11 View Post
                        My Enjoya this year has fruited and ripened.

                        As per poly's comments, I wasn't expecting any striping to show up, and can now confirm this.

                        But I have got some lovely golden yellow sweet peppers

                        Been looking at the posting and the trademark agreement... and may go someway to explain 6A

                        6A has been an odd ball from the start of the challenge. Germinating within 15 days with Tiger Green Leaves - this is similar germination time as all the other sweet peppers. The plant is now 4 months old, 500mm Tall with Bell peppers and White flowers. The Flower bud has a very slight purple tinge in the centre. All the other sweet peppers don't. Refer to Reference Plants - Mini Sweet, Mixed Sweet and California Wonder and Plants 3A and 3B. in the Chris11 Challenge.

                        The tiger leaf marking is common on bell peppers, so if Chris has included Enjoya seed in the challenge I say 6A is the one, with 3A and 3B some form of California Wonder (not quite same as mine)

                        See Chilli Pepper Thread
                        https://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gr...ml#post1605876

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by 4Shoes View Post
                          The tiger leaf marking is common on bell peppers, so if Chris has included Enjoya seed in the challenge I say 6A is the one, with 3A and 3B some form of California Wonder (not quite same as mine)

                          See Chilli Pepper Thread
                          https://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gr...ml#post1605876
                          Yes, there were some Enjoya seeds included in the Mystery Mix pack. But definitely no California Wonder.

                          There were other sweet pepper seeds included, but none of them were varieties with the standard 'blocky' shape.

                          Not sure what you mean by 'tiger leaf' marking?

                          Look forward to seeing how your (probable) Enjoya develop. They will probably be golden yellow rather than striped, but the genetics/biology for this one is complicated.

                          There's an excellent blog post here if anyone wants to get in to the Enjoya history and biology: https://the-biologist-is-in.blogspot...ya-pepper.html

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                          • #14
                            Will have to look at the link and the patent again. By standard blocky do you mean "Bell Shaped" ?

                            If that is the case, then 3a and b would also be Enjoya.

                            Today update on 7a - the 1st pod emerged - purple pointed pod.

                            Update
                            Just skimmed over the link and it is very interesting post. The purple marking on the flowers are very similar to 7a. Now just need to find another pepper type with purple and white flowers
                            Last edited by 4Shoes; 02-07-2018, 01:03 PM.

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                            • #15
                              From the original press article.
                              I’d never seen a pepper like this and at first glace it looked like someone had stroked them lightly with a paintbrush.

                              That's probably the way to go !
                              Jimmy
                              Expect the worst in life and you will probably have under estimated!

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