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I know a lot of you grow your tomatoes outdoors, but so far the only tomato I have had any success with is Mountain Magic, I have tried several varieties over the years without success, there is never a long enough period of heat for them to develop properly and night temps. can fall quite a bit, is there a tomato you could recommend for growing outdoors, I think it would need to be a cold tolerant quick developer
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it may be a struggle to reach the top, but once your over the hill your problems start.
Member of the Nutters Club but I think I am just there to make up the numbers
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Marmande (sp?) - worked really well two years ago, got nailed by blight last year but still got a bit of a harvest. They are slightly odd-shaped though, so I got a higher than average reject rate from SWMBO.
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I grew "outdoor girl" a few years ago and had fab results, but that was a baking hot summer IIRC.
I shall be replanting them this year. My best results were pre-offspring and I could grow them against a south-facing wall that kept the temperature up nicely. (they'd have to share with a collection of ride-on toys now...) -
The most cold tolerant varieties I have grown are Sungold and Mountain Magic. An alternative if you have a really short season would be to grow one of the patio varieties such as Balconi, which you can leave longer before planting out because they don't grow very tall. I grow mine in 3l pots on the windowsill until they have finished their first flush of fruit, then plant them outside in containers for a 2nd flush of fruit. I've had fruit on them until October, even in a fairly shady part of the garden.
Another thing you could do is pick all the green tomatoes at the end of the season and ripen them indoors. I do this with Shirley, which rarely fully ripen outdoors in the amount of sun I can provide in my garden.A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. LLAP. - Leonard NimoyComment
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Yes Sungold ripens early.
Try to position them for best results.
I put mine next to a southeast facing house wall under the eaves.
Also try and grow on inside for as long as you can.
I had a mechanism where I had a grow bag in the green house. Slid a board with 4 holes for ropes under it and could then lift it and carry outside.
JimmyExpect the worst in life and you will probably have under estimated!Comment
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Another good tomato variety worth trying is Latah, I've never seen it in a garden centre but you can get the seeds online from realseed. They are very early red tomatoes, flavour is good, they are pretty untidy in growth habit though. I planted some in the allotment here in Somerset, they just sprawled about but I managed to get several handfuls of nice ripe toms before the blight got to them. I planted out lots of varieties actually, but Latah and mountain magic were the only ones that were really any good. The mountain magic plants came down with blight too, but many of the fruits still managed to ripen up with time.Comment
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Cadalot recommended Outdoor Girl as an early cropper. I'm giving it a go this year. Probably just as well, as I still haven't even sown them.
Sungold is the quickest cherry tom I've grown, but my impression is they do better in a greenhouse than outdoors.Comment
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Ive had the following success outdoors at my old house as I didn’t have a greenhouse then:-
Marmande
Gardeners Delight
Tigerella
Tumbling Tom
Moneymaker
Sungold
Kind Regards.............RobComment
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Sandpoint is a very early cropper and does ok outside.
With a good headstart from sowing in early March I have had nice crops from Purple Ukraine, Sweet Aperitif and Harbinger but my site gets blight pretty badly each year and they succumb fairly quickly.http://mudandgluts.com - growing fruit and veg in suburbiaComment
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have always grown tomatoes under cover but this year am trying some outdoor that sound good for our climate ie. cold tolerant and rapid developing, they are glacier and sub arctic, hopefully they will produce somethingComment
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I grow most of my tomatoes in the back garden as if there is blight around I appear to get it about a month later than the allotment. This year smaller varieties are going in the greenhouses (If I get the 2nd one on the allotment erected in time. But out in the open on the plot I will be growing Crimson Crush saved seed from the original plant when they were first released and Rapunzel which is a smashing cherry tom and appears very hardy.
Here are my first batch that were potted on into vending machine cups three days ago
Gardeners Delight
Crimson Crush (4th Generation)
Money Maker
One Hundreds and Thousands
Outdoor Girl
Stupicke Poini Rane
RapunzelLast edited by Cadalot; 11-04-2018, 09:03 AM.Comment
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SelkirkAlex where did you buy the seeds from I had a hunt for them but it was $ that was quotedLast edited by rary; 11-04-2018, 02:38 PM.it may be a struggle to reach the top, but once your over the hill your problems start.
Member of the Nutters Club but I think I am just there to make up the numbersComment
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No experience with specific varieties that might aid you, however I would try to avoid open windy spots and chose a nice sun trap facing south if such a thing exists. Good fertile soil and regular feed to get maximum growth early on. Mulch to avoid any risk of drying out too quick and stop them by removing the tops and all sideshoots as soon as you have either 3-4 nice trusses or the cold weather will interfere before ripening is complete. (Only you can judge your local weather/season, mine are done down here first week of September outdoor but I've had a few struggle on to mid October in a greenhouse in exceptional weather. Remove all superflouse leaves up to the ripening truss, the plant should just sustain itself and the fruit you will be able to harvest, nothing else is needed.
Remember you can pick green fruit and place them on the kitchen windowsill to ripen without risking a cold snap.
I'm probably preaching to the converted so appologies if this is already in hand.Comment
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they came from premier seeds, they still have sub arctic but not glacier, which is still available at plantsofdistinction.co.ukComment
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Early. I grow Sub Arctic Plenty. Mr Fothergills seeds.
Stamina. Thomson and Morgan seeds.
Always grow Alicante.
All grow well outdoors for me.
And when your back stops aching,
And your hands begin to harden.
You will find yourself a partner,
In the glory of the garden.
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Predictive txts again.
That should be Tamina.
And when your back stops aching,
And your hands begin to harden.
You will find yourself a partner,
In the glory of the garden.
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