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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarlet View Post
    Are you pruning correctly? There shouldn't be any side shoots? " Numerous branches and offshoots" indicate that you aren't doing that? Those plants are all cordons so they shouldn't be getting to 5/6 wide? Insane proportions sounds as if you are letting a lot of sideshoots grow up without pruning....which can be a serious problem in the GH if you aren't getting much airflow. We have s few more months yet and if your GH is as crammed as you describe you could loose the lot to Botrytis.
    I train two stems per plant up a cane or string to reach the roof.
    It's a good year for toms outside but some years your harvest can be cut down with blight with a load of green toms ready to ripen which really isn't ideal. So growing outside tomatoes is a gamble.

    Sowing a few early bush tomatoes gives you an earlier crop that will not outgrow your windowsill too soon.
    Micro toms are perfect for a pot on a windowsill and even without pruning won't get insanely large.

    Apologies for the delay in replying, Scarlet.

    And you are correct, I have not been pinching out the growth between the main stem and leaf. I was initially doing so, on some of my plants, but I have been unable to stay on top of it this summer.

    I'm not trying to make excuses, but I have been absolutely inundated with my work this year and have had to deal with my mother passing in June. That required a 2 week trip to Australia for the funeral. So I guess you can say that I have neglected my toms this year, unfortunately.

    And low and behold, just as you warned... I have been hit hard by botrytis. Not in the greenhouse, but on the outdoor tomato plot where the Sun Gold was growing out of control and swamping everything.

    I checked on them today to find that most of the stems in the vicinity have been affected. That's 4 plants completely devastated with botrytis - Sun Gold, Brandwine, Purple Cherokee, and a Black Russian. Although two Shirley F1's have also been slightly affected too. My own doing.

    The good news is that the two Gigantamo's appear to show very good resistance to botyritis. It is in the same plot as the others, but is not showing any signs, yet. I am frantically trying to cut back the mould spore ridden mess and overgrown foliage to ensure the Gigantamo and Shirley plants don't fall victim to the same fate, as the others are totally done for I think.

    I will 100% ensure I do things differently next season and stay on top of the pruning. This has cost me enormously this season. I haven't even harvested any of the affected Brandywine or Purple Cherokee's, which is very disheartening. I guess it is a lesson learnt though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by veggiechicken View Post
    We've been sowing tomato seeds in January for so many years that it seems perfectly normal to many of us.

    I've been looking back at your "Showcase" thread and you don't seem to be
    sideshooting your tomatoes in the GH so its inevitable that they will become overcrowded. Here's one of your photos https://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gr...ml#post1659616

    I'd like to see some photos of your outdoor plants please. Perhaps you could update your thread?
    Well, I'm going to take a leaf out of your book and sow some early tomato plants next year, in Jan/Feb.

    I didn't mean for my previous comment(s) to sound offensive in any way, but I was just somewhat surprised how early some people were sowing their tomato seed. I get that this is the purpose of the thread, but it just seemed abnormally early to me.

    But then again, I am relatively inexperienced, and at 26 years of age, I have only been growing tomatoes for 3 years. So what do I know. I am here to learn, and I am all ears. And I'm not phrasing that sarcastically. I genuinely want to learn from others, which is why I am here.

    I will update my "showcase" thread in the next 24 hours. I have been meaning to update it but have been so busy and inundated with work, travel, family, personal matters etc. This season has just not gone as planned for me, due to things I could, and couldn't, have helped.

    But the fact of the matter is that I need to do a number of things differently next year. My peppers are doing fantastic for me, but the tomatoes have been an issue. I must adapt, learn from mistakes and do things correctly next year.

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    I'm sorry to hear your sad news. My condolences.

    As for the early sowing date, we trial lots of things here - some work, some don't - but we've been sowing Early Tomatoes for many years that its stopped being experimental. The trick is to grow bush cherry toms that are meant to be grown on windowsills and in small pots - not the big, cordons that will be difficult to move around before its warm enough to leave them in the GH overnight.

    You'll have a better idea next year about side-shooting and spacing - the best way to learn is by making mistakes.
    Make 2019 the Year of Random Seed sowing
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