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    ^Yes. Wholeheartedly agree, Bluenowhere. Some friends of mine in the UK decided they were going to give a patch of grassland over to no dig. Had a massive delivery of muck and spread it out. Things started off well and their plants got off to a good start, but by the time the weeds got going, my friends became very disheartened and gave up.
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    Interesting read...whilst I dont dispute the no dig method has merits, I am a committed digger....two reason really

    1 because thats how I was taught
    2 because I enjoy it

    I may be old school, well perhaps just old
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    Its the same with Square foot gardening. People read the books/videos, seeing how productive it can be, so they section of their plot, draw up planting plans, put the seeds/plants in and are disappointed when it doesn't turn out like the photos.
    Its the same with Monty Don/GW programmes, show gardens, pictures on seed packets and in catalogues - there's usually a big difference between expectation and reality (thanks BlueNW). Sad but true and its no good people saying "that's the way soandso does it and it works for them" as there are too many variables involved.
    Best way is to try it and see and if it doesn't work, tweak it a bit next year.............and the next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenleaves View Post
    Interesting read...whilst I dont dispute the no dig method has merits, I am a committed digger....two reason really

    1 because thats how I was taught
    2 because I enjoy it

    I may be old school, well perhaps just old
    Yes I would agree with you on the very last sentence
    But there were three reasons for me to be a digger, like you that's how I was taught, and as I have said in the past I enjoyed digging, the reason I no longer dig is because of knee replacements, the third reason is while I was digging the garden OH managed to get all the housework done nowadays she thinks that I am not busy if I am not digging
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    Yeah I agree with what all of you say, that some no dig videos and books come across a bit rose-tinted. I am well aware of how darn persistant weeds can be, and by the looks of things, I have a fair bit on my new plot. I wouldn't be too surprised if I'll be hoeing and digging out weeds for many years to come.

    I've just been told by someone that used to manage the allotments here in North East Lincolnshire that the works department were crying out for allotments to take deliveries of leaves that they'd collected in the parks etc. I'm going to have a word with the site manager at my site to see if I can organise that, especially so since I have a plot at the very far end of the site where not many other plots are occupied, and there are quite a few massive piles of woodchip too. So organic material looks to not be much of an issue for me, as it turns out. It might be something you guys want to ask your local council to see if you can do too?

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    I forgot to say, I do think my plot has large areas of compaction, or rather, erratic areas but much of it. There are lots of small wooden raised beds that clearly haven't had much in them, with hoops over them. That makes me think there's been lots of paths too, hence the compaction. I will have a proper gander when I go up there next, at the weekend. I've not got proper access yet and I'm itching to get started!

    I'm leaning towards easing the soil where the weeds aren't too bad, dig up the worst of it, then cover it with lots of material, then cardboard (that may or may not be removed in the spring, depending on the state of it).

    Most of the growing next year will be in the form of plugs that I've started off in my greenhouse at home, rather than sowing direct.

    It's worth a try, right? I just can't face digging a whole allotment, and if it doesn't kill my enthusiasm off, it certainly will for my friend who has not grown much before.
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    Took over a marestail infested plot in May and have dug it over twice to remove as many roots as possible. It is now covered in plenty of cardboard and straw but still waiting on a delivery of manure, going to go no dig on 1/2 and take a more traditional approach on the other.

    Do enjoy diggin though...
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    This may surprise you - or not - but I've never dug a plot over - years before I'd heard of Charles Dowding and NoDig.

    I've dug and forked out weeds and brambles and I've dug holes for planting trees but I've never completely cleared an area by digging it. Just seemed like waste of effort to me. I'd hoe it over then plant into the ground, whatever it was like. Still do.
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