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**Nicos** · 24-02-2006, 01:15 PM

Do you have an allotment or garden?? Would make a difference to some ideas.

**Lesley Jay** · 24-02-2006, 01:59 PM

As you have a kitchen garden I would fill the water butt up now with the hose pipe. I know that water will not last forever but each day I would fill up a bucket or two from the house and top the water butt up. Keep a cover on the butt to stop the water evaporating. The one in our garden is connected to the guttering on the greenhouse so it can collect the rain water. On the allotment we just leave them open to collect rain water. The last time we had a hose pipe ban we were still allowed to water the vegetables with a watering can.

**sewer rat** · 24-02-2006, 10:33 PM

If you have the room and the readies, buy a second butt and link it to your existing one.

Mulch everything possible with a good deep mulch as this will help conserve moisture in the soil too.

If growing veg in pots or baskets, use water retaining gel or crystals.

If all else fails, move to the Highlands !

Rat

**Nicos** · 24-02-2006, 11:20 PM

Have contacted Ecover...and awaiting advice... our daughter went to the Amazon last year researching'new' bird species etc etc and lived wild for 2 months....native ++++++ ( wonderful photos!!!) and nearly died

so.... they were advised to take eco-friendly soap/shampoo etc and so I have asked this company about their soaps etc for pouring directly onto an allotment as the only source of water.......dishwasher/washing machine/bath/kitchen sink.... as I have excema I was cautious with their washing up liquid and have no problems at all.....(excuses...excuses!!!!!)

Will post their reply!!!

**Nicos** · 28-02-2006, 11:05 AM

Ecover reply...

Thank you for contacting Ecover.

Grey (waste) water is safe to use to water your plants and garden. However we recommend that if possible you allow the water to 'settle' for 2 - 3 days first.

During this time the process of biodegradation will have already started to happen, minimising further the impact to the environment.

If you have any further questions then please do not hesitate to contact us again.

Kind Regards

Emma Roberts

Care Line: 08451 302230

www.Ecover.com

If one of your New Year Resolutions is to become more ecological what could be more easy than to switch your household products to Ecover - it's as easy as starting with the washing up!

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I did say it was water for use on allotments, so I presume it would be OK on crops. Had thought people could catch their dishwasher/sink/washing machine/bath water if using their (or similar biodegradeable) product by using a device attatched to the drainpipe/outlet pipes.

Hope this is helpful

**andrewo** · 01-03-2006, 04:38 PM

You're now getting water meters according to the news. Some mad puppy said "We should tap into the resevoirs in the North, that will help the situation". Until someone pointed out that the pipework to do that has yet to be invented and it would cost millions. So, come friends of the North, send water parcels to our brethren in the South. They need to reassess how they collect water, instead of putting the blame on someone else. Think of all those roof in suburbia and across the South, why don't they collect water off them to use in households?

**Helen** · 01-03-2006, 07:54 PM

I've got the answer!

We all move up north or to Wales!

**Nicos** · 01-03-2006, 08:28 PM

That would do wonders for our house prices!

**eskymo** · 01-03-2006, 08:30 PM

I use bath water to water the houseplants and have been doing this for years with no bother at all. I occassionally use the same water to water the garden, but only when I can be bothered to carry buckets down the stairs to fill the water butt up. I use e-cover products as well as natural soaps and shampoos and toothpastes, so think it's ok.

There wouldn't be a hosepipe ban if people didn't waste so much water every day. It's amazing how much the average household go through, because they don't think. My biggest annoyance is when people let the tap run whilst they're brushing their teeth - it's wastes litres and litres! I have no idea why people do it...guests in our house get a lecture about it and soon change their ways...

My oh my I sound really millitant!

I guess I am when it comes to waste....sorry!

**Lesley Jay** · 01-03-2006, 08:47 PM

Don't forget though that alot of the extra housing that has been built down south has been done on flood plains and areas where rain water was naturally collected. Extra housing means thousands of extra families using the dwindling water supplies. Installing water meters in houses is not going to increase the water supply - people will save a bit. What is needed are new reservoirs and government funded schemes to enable households to recycle their own water without it costing them any money.

Lesley now steps down from her soap box.

**eskymo** · 01-03-2006, 08:57 PM

I agree - recycling is the key issue here! and government funded schemes that help people help themselves!

**Nicos** · 01-03-2006, 08:58 PM

eskymo - are you happy eating veg which has had this water poured over it? I think I would as it's a biodegradeable soap.
Can anyone recommend a particular product they use or know about which is attatched to the drainpipe to divert rainwater or bathwater into a butt? For xmas our kids bought us a water carrier from a caravan centre which is like a barrel and pulled along by a handle.The heavy bit is lifting it into and out of the car. It's called an aquaroll and holds 40 litres.Am looking forward to using it as our greenhouse is at the far end of the allotment.

**sewer rat** · 01-03-2006, 10:37 PM

Nicos
Not sure about the bath or sink waste water diverter as in most houses this runs into the same downpipe as the toilets so you couldn't use it anyway -kitchens may be okay though, so long as you are, as you say, using biodegradable soaps and detergents. Recently whilst surfing for a holiday lodge for my forthcoming honeymoon, I came across a 5 star resort of 18 lodges which do not allow guests bring their own soap / shampoo / washing powder - they supply it all as they insist on phosphate free . Maybe more resorts / hotels should do this.
Anyway, back to your question - there is a device that i bought when I got my water butt for diverting rainwater from the downpipe into the butt. It requires you to cut the downpipe and slot this into place on the end of the pipe. When the water butt is full, the excess rainfall comes down the original pipe and flows right through the device. Can't remember the name of the device but it cost just over a fiver and should be readily available from a local GC - especially if they sell the butts. Hope this helps
Rat

**Jaxom** · 02-03-2006, 12:35 AM

A hosepipe would allow you to siphon water from an upper floor to a water container in the garden. Once you have started the water moving from the bath to the garden gravity will do all the rest. People used to siphon fuel out of their petrol tank years ago. I can�t imagine bath water being nastier than that.
Jax

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