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    Quote Originally Posted by Small pumpkin View Post

    Do the seeds that have to be sent in need to fall into your categories? I'm assuming yes.

    This is where I personally have difficulties because on the very rare occasion that I have seeds to swap ( as some of you may know, I grow everything ). I usually want something from a different category
    I think this is where the VSP falls down it needed to be split as it was a full time job for VC. It really was getting to big for one person.
    Putting it into categories was the only solution....
    That said, when the vsp was originally started all the seed circles had stopped - it was the only way for us to swap seeds. With the circles now in place personally I find it a fairer swapping system. The seeds are fresher too.
    The “opening times” have stopped a lot of new grapes joining for 3 months, requesting a pile of seeds and then disappearing.
    It seems that most of the regulars that used the vsp now use the circles instead.
    When regulars are looking for something they almost always get an offer of seed from another grape.

    And now with your nutty chilli seedling swap we have something else to look forward too

    Though we could add in a seed circle of opened/ not wanted commercial/ selfsaved lucky dip swap. We had one before? Send in 10 packs of what you don’t want and receive 10 mystery ones in return? Or something like that! could be a bit of fun?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarlet View Post
    Though we could add in a seed circle of opened/ not wanted commercial/ selfsaved lucky dip swap. We had one before? Send in 10 packs of what you donít want and receive 10 mystery ones in return? Or something like that! could be a bit of fun?
    You're a genius! That's a brilliant idea
    Mystery seeds would make me try new things and new varieties .

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    How did the VSP come about? Was there a seed parcel at one point before the VSP?

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    Yes, there was a seed parcel that used to get sent to a grape, you'd take out what you wanted and put something back and post it to the next grape on the list.
    There were a couple of problems - grapes disappearing off the vine along with the parcel or the parcels getting lost/delayed in the post.
    Escalating postage costs.
    Time, many grapes didn't manage to get to the post office that quickly.

    Then the seed circles were stopped as someone's seeds didn't arrive and they complained I think to admin/the "old" mod team as the seed circle runner didn't follow it up due to illness/being away (can't remember exactly and also didn't know the details as the then mods dealt with the problem).....so the vsp was born.
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    That about sums it up, as Scarlet said. I think there were several seed parcels - some specific to certain veg, like toms and there were problems with parcels going AWOL. Its all before my time too but I was around at the birth of the VSP - the idea being that one person would hold all the seeds so that they couldn't stray and that person would handle all the swaps.
    After a year or two, I was asked if I'd take it on - "it" being a large supermarket bag of seeds. From that it grew and grew and became a weight on my shoulders!

    I remember the lucky dip seed shareout - that was fun. Maybe it would be a way of disposing of the VSP seeds? Or as "bonus" seeds to seed circle participants?
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    Quote Originally Posted by veggiechicken View Post
    I remember the lucky dip seed shareout - that was fun. Maybe it would be a way of disposing of the VSP seeds? Or as "bonus" seeds to seed circle participants?
    I did of load a few when I posted back the seed circle seeds...requests and surprises.

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    OK, so I think I've read all there is to read and can ask questions and check understanding.

    Vsp - I offer up my unique seeds, and request what I want from whichever list my offer is from. If I send 1 variety can only request 1.

    Seed swap - I send in my seeds (can't be something common that everyone has) 1pk per group member. In return I get 1 pack from each member. So for a tomato swap with 12 members I should get 11 types of tomato seeds for sending in 1 unique one?
    What I don't understand is members sending in multiple varieties. So if I send 1 variety and say Scarlet sends in 3 will each member get 11+2 and Scarlet gets 11?

    I'm sure s/one mentioned they could appreciate ppl might not want 20 different tomatoes and so on so. Does that mean there is some leeway to decline seeds? Clearly we don't want the coordinator with a bagful of seeds going to waste too. How has that worked in the past?

    Thanks in advance.
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    The All in One circle is for anyone who doesn't want 20 different tomatoes.
    Most members of that circle grow lots of different tomatoes - 20 isn't unusual - and the seeds will be viable for a couple of years so there's no need to sow them all at once.
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