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    Not sure if Jennie has posted the recipe for gloop, but i thought you might all like a look at the recipe that Jen uses to pull round sick birds.

    We use this recipe for chicks that are having difficulty feeding, for intensivly feeding sick birds, and as a general tonic for birds in shock etc. As you all know, we get birds of all states here dropped off, so our regime usually starts with a health MOT and a morsel of food. If they show no signs of feeding and show signs of a thin breast bone, then onto gloop they go!

    Before i give you the full recipe, you need to be familar with and happy to use a syringe feeder. we make ours from the childs dosing syringes you can buy from Boots and a short length (around 2") of aquarium air line. Preferably the green or opaque soft one, not the hard plastic one if possible.

    To feed a chicken via a syringe you must be absolutely certain you have the tip of the syringe (or tube) in the throat / crop not in the airway. if you pump 5ml of gloop into the air way its game over within seconds

    The easy way to ensure you dont miss the target is to get someone to hold the bird facing you, then open its beak. you will see its triangular shaped tongue with a small hole at the very base of it. This is its airway. further back is the throat. As long as you clear the back of the tongue you should be fine.

    Also note when feeding this way, it is better to give lots of small feeds rather than one big one as this may mean that you overfill the crop and it starts to back up and flow over into the airway. Never fill the crop of a bird that is having trouble keeping its balance. If it falls over there is a possiblility that the food could leach into the airway when the bird lays down. Better to keep to small feeds and prop up the bird if in doubt.

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    approx 1 tablespoon of EMP Egg Food (canary rearing formula from most good pet shops)
    approx 1 tablespoon of Hipp Organic Baby rice Meal (morrisons stock it)
    a tiny tiny pinch of worming powder
    three drops of concentrated vitamin fluid (pet shop again)
    1 teaspoon of "Critical Care Formula" (available from Reptile shops and off the web)

    Grind the EMP in a pestle and mortar to make a fine dust. You may need to sieve out the hulls from the hemp seeds etc.
    Mix in the other dry ingredients. Add enough water to mix into a reasonably wet mix. Allow to stand for a few minutes. Add the liquid ingredients

    Mix with enough water to make it into a loose semi-thick fluid. A bit like runny custard. Note the baby rice will absorb a lot of water so keep checking the consist

    Take to the bird and feed by drawing it up into the syringe and pumping into the crop. As a guideline, unless you know what you are doing, do not exceed 4 syringes (10ml) of gloop to an adult bantam, and around 15ml to a large hen. Feel the crop and when its about the size of half a golf ball stop. you can always feed again in 30 minutes or so.

    Tips:

    - Never let the bird go to bed on an empty crop
    - Place the bird into a confined box or similar to restrict its movement whilst on gloop. you are trying to get its weight back on it, not let it run it off.
    - If the birds is in shock or immobile, place into a small box with a fabric covered base (for cleaning) and place the whole box on top of a hot water bottle to keep the bird warm.
    - If keeping on gloop for more than 24hours, remember to give the Critical Care Formular neat (diluted with water as per the instructions) every other feed to ensure the bird is getting enough fluids.
    - keep the bird covered. It will recooperate better in a semi dark environment, rather than a stressful heavily lit one.
    - Never keep an old batch of gloop for the next feed. Use a new batch each time
    - Never use and old syringe. Always wash out the syringes and steilise in hot water before each use.
    - Always use antibacterial handwash before and after touching the bird, and definately between handling each bird to stop the transfer of disease. Remember the cold virus is zoonotic so you can give it to your hen. Clean yourself of all harmful germs by regular handwashing
    - If feeding other birds outside etc, always feed the ones on Gloop last. This stops you transferring illness to the birds outside.

    Typical Regime for new introduction

    Recieve bird. Spray with frontline, head, neck, shouders, under "arms", vent and legs to remove/reduce load from parasites and scaly leg mite.
    Check movement in wings and legs. Isolate if needs be.
    Check over face for running nose and eyes. Panting, shaking etc.
    Place into quarantine unit until 7 days have passed when you can be certain tha tyou will know if it has any "hitchhikers" etc.
    Medicate as necessary
    All waters to contain respite for 7 days.
    All birds to recieve Flubenvet for the first 7 days

    This should ideally be undertaken before introducing to you existing flock.

    Hope that helps

    Mike

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    Thanks Mike, well useful.
    Ps can some genius (I know theres lots of us on here ) tell me how to sticky this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bramble-Poultry View Post
    Not sure if Jennie has posted the recipe for gloop, but i thought you might all like a look at the recipe that Jen uses to pull round sick birds.

    We use this recipe for chicks that are having difficulty feeding, for intensivly feeding sick birds, and as a general tonic for birds in shock etc. As you all know, we get birds of all states here dropped off, so our regime usually starts with a health MOT and a morsel of food. If they show no signs of feeding and show signs of a thin breast bone, then onto gloop they go!

    Before i give you the full recipe, you need to be familar with and happy to use a syringe feeder. we make ours from the childs dosing syringes you can buy from Boots and a short length (around 2") of aquarium air line. Preferably the green or opaque soft one, not the hard plastic one if possible.

    To feed a chicken via a syringe you must be absolutely certain you have the tip of the syringe (or tube) in the throat / crop not in the airway. if you pump 5ml of gloop into the air way its game over within seconds

    The easy way to ensure you dont miss the target is to get someone to hold the bird facing you, then open its beak. you will see its triangular shaped tongue with a small hole at the very base of it. This is its airway. further back is the throat. As long as you clear the back of the tongue you should be fine.

    Also note when feeding this way, it is better to give lots of small feeds rather than one big one as this may mean that you overfill the crop and it starts to back up and flow over into the airway. Never fill the crop of a bird that is having trouble keeping its balance. If it falls over there is a possiblility that the food could leach into the airway when the bird lays down. Better to keep to small feeds and prop up the bird if in doubt.

    Right - gloop

    approx 1 tablespoon of EMP Egg Food (canary rearing formula from most good pet shops)
    approx 1 tablespoon of Hipp Organic Baby rice Meal (morrisons stock it)
    a tiny tiny pinch of worming powder
    three drops of concentrated vitamin fluid (pet shop again)
    1 teaspoon of "Critical Care Formula" (available from Reptile shops and off the web)

    Grind the EMP in a pestle and mortar to make a fine dust. You may need to sieve out the hulls from the hemp seeds etc.
    Mix in the other dry ingredients. Add enough water to mix into a reasonably wet mix. Allow to stand for a few minutes. Add the liquid ingredients

    Mix with enough water to make it into a loose semi-thick fluid. A bit like runny custard. Note the baby rice will absorb a lot of water so keep checking the consist

    Take to the bird and feed by drawing it up into the syringe and pumping into the crop. As a guideline, unless you know what you are doing, do not exceed 4 syringes (10ml) of gloop to an adult bantam, and around 15ml to a large hen. Feel the crop and when its about the size of half a golf ball stop. you can always feed again in 30 minutes or so.

    Tips:

    - Never let the bird go to bed on an empty crop
    - Place the bird into a confined box or similar to restrict its movement whilst on gloop. you are trying to get its weight back on it, not let it run it off.
    - If the birds is in shock or immobile, place into a small box with a fabric covered base (for cleaning) and place the whole box on top of a hot water bottle to keep the bird warm.
    - If keeping on gloop for more than 24hours, remember to give the Critical Care Formular neat (diluted with water as per the instructions) every other feed to ensure the bird is getting enough fluids.
    - keep the bird covered. It will recooperate better in a semi dark environment, rather than a stressful heavily lit one.
    - Never keep an old batch of gloop for the next feed. Use a new batch each time
    - Never use and old syringe. Always wash out the syringes and steilise in hot water before each use.
    - Always use antibacterial handwash before and after touching the bird, and definately between handling each bird to stop the transfer of disease. Remember the cold virus is zoonotic so you can give it to your hen. Clean yourself of all harmful germs by regular handwashing
    - If feeding other birds outside etc, always feed the ones on Gloop last. This stops you transferring illness to the birds outside.

    Typical Regime for new introduction

    Recieve bird. Spray with frontline, head, neck, shouders, under "arms", vent and legs to remove/reduce load from parasites and scaly leg mite.
    Check movement in wings and legs. Isolate if needs be.
    Check over face for running nose and eyes. Panting, shaking etc.
    Place into quarantine unit until 7 days have passed when you can be certain tha tyou will know if it has any "hitchhikers" etc.
    Medicate as necessary
    All waters to contain respite for 7 days.
    All birds to recieve Flubenvet for the first 7 days

    This should ideally be undertaken before introducing to you existing flock.

    Hope that helps

    Mike

    Am going to attempt to add this to the Chicken Health Sticky hope folks approve..?

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    Gosh- that's really well worth knowing- I'm going to print that off.
    I know I can't buy the ingredients over here- but if I need to use a syringe I'll be a bit happier.

    Thanks

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    Thanks Mike and Jennie.

    Yes, please Corax. Good to have quick access if there is an emergency.
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    Nicos - any baby rice is fine - the powder one you make up, its just really easily digestible. On its own is not a complete food for them but has some added vits etc.

    Avian vitamins - any pet shop should sell them usually for budgies - same stuff - actually note to everyone the budgie one is cheaper than the chicken one!!

    Egg food - its EMP is the manufacturer in this country but its Sluis on the continent, it is available on line.

    Critical care formula is made by VetArk it is available from vets too in this country not sure about france though - its used a lot for reptiles hence mainly being available in rep shops - also available online - it lasts ages and ages.

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