New place, what to have

**Bigmallly** · 11-01-2017, 04:03 PM

Welcome back Paul although under sad circumstances. Any chance of you getting an allotment?

**Paul-C** · 11-01-2017, 04:09 PM

Thankyou

I'm not sure where the nearest ones are as I'm in a new county!
I think for starters I'll just stick with the garden for now as I also walk a lot now my spare time is a little more divided

**Bigmallly** · 11-01-2017, 04:09 PM

https://www.eastsussex.gov.uk/atoz/s...px?heading=930

**Bigmallly** · 11-01-2017, 04:11 PM

I think you may struggle with a north facing garden plus having high fences and walls doesn't help.

**jackarmy** · 11-01-2017, 08:01 PM

But.... the north wall will be south facing so every cloud

**ancee** · 11-01-2017, 08:42 PM

There's plenty of stuff that's not bothered about too much sun though. Also if you can get stuff that scrambles up like peas and beans they will hopefully have their heads in the sun! Cover the walls in climbers. Parts of my garden never get sun at all but I shove stuff in those spots anyway with varying degrees of success!

**Elfeda** · 11-01-2017, 09:16 PM

You can hang some pots to fence and grow enough toms from hanging baskets, as one of our grapes is very successful with that.

**sparrow100** · 11-01-2017, 10:33 PM

I've got a north-facing balcony - it still gets some sun in the early morning in spring & summer. Enough to grow decent carrots & root parsley in tubs, a big selection of salad leaves & some herbs and some chillies in pots. The latter aren't as prolific as if they were in a sunny position, but they still crop.

**ESBkevin** · 12-01-2017, 09:48 AM

Think about the old victorian walled kitchen gardens. They used cordon fruit against walls which gives lots of produce for little ground space. They must have other tricks to maximise the conditions (although they tended to be labour intensive).

**vixylix** · 12-01-2017, 01:34 PM

my old garden was north facing, with high fences - I put a raised bed in an east facing position and got enough early sun to grow lots of things!

Depending on how the sun travels round and the time of year I'm sure you'll be able to utilise it - maybe just slightly more selectively! And the shadier areas could be used for cooler crops like lettuce and spinach

**Penellype** · 14-01-2017, 12:26 PM

I have a lot of very shady areas as the whole of the south and west boundaries of my garden are made from house and garage walls. There is also a 10ft leylandii hedge to the east and a 6ft fence to the north. I've grown the following successfully in pots in the shady area:
Potatoes, carrots, cabbages, spinach, parsnips, kohlrabi, calabrese, broccoli, blueberries, salad greens.
The following will tolerate shade as long as they get some sunshine:
Strawberries, cucumbers, onions, leeks, peas, beetroot.
There will be other things that I don't grow that could be grown in these conditions. Crops of all of these things will be smaller than those grown in the sun, but they are still worth doing.

The good thing about using pots is they can be moved around, so you can put the earlier crops in the sunny areas until they are needed for things that need more sun such as courgettes, beans and tomatoes.

Make use of your vertical spaces - I grow drought tolerant plants such as geraniums in quite small pots on my fence top, but I've got a new fence in the front garden (east facing) this year and I am going to try dwarf french beans, dwarf peas, strawberries and tomatoes on it. The fence has been carefully chosen so that it has strong horizontal slats over which I can hang reasonable sized pots.

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