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    Please can I get some advice on starting a raspberry patch? I had planned to fill one of my main beds with raspberries. The beds measure about 4.5m by 1.5m. Looking at the raspberry spacing requirements it looks like I can only fit about 8 raspberries across (using 50cm spacing as an approximate average between summer and autumn varieties) and that I would need to deepen the bed to 1.8m or a bit more to fit a second row in. Is that right? Is tighter spacing used in practice? Other raspberry patches at our allotments seem to have much tighter spacing. I donít want to have them too close and affect yields, but equally I would like more than 8 plants. We are a family of four (who go through at least half a kilo of raspberries a week). How many plants would you recommend having? If I need more than 8 plants might one option be to join two of the individual beds so I have an area 4.5m wide and 3m deep? Thanks for any advice! Hoping to order plants soon but donít want to order too many!

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    Raspberries grow like weeds and I would grow them in a row - not 2 plants deep unless you were leaving a deep path between rows?
    Mine started as a single row, each cane two foot apart....the row is now difficult to contain at 3ft deep...I'm always cutting out the stragglers! Honestly they grow fast. Give them plenty of space and they will soon look like the others on the allotment.
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    I've tried to find a few photos of mine but all I can find is one end.
    The cross pieces are 3ft wide and the upright post is 6ft. I tie wires on the cross piece ends to keep the canes in. They don't take long to fill their allotted space.

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    This started as 1 cane deep, 2ft apart.
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    I just used cuttings from someone else’s patch. Placed them into the ground about 6” and about a foot apart to make a border. As scarlet says that border very quickly became a bush. A very healthy bush my I add. So basically don’t worry about the spacings as they will soon fill up anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarlet View Post
    Raspberries grow like weeds and I would grow them in a row - not 2 plants deep unless you were leaving a deep path between rows?
    Mine started as a single row, each cane two foot apart....the row is now difficult to contain at 3ft deep...I'm always cutting out the stragglers! Honestly they grow fast. Give them plenty of space and they will soon look like the others on the allotment.
    Thanks for the advice Scarlet. Yes it would be a deep row between the plants (about 1.8m). Thanks for your pic - really interesting to see how yours have developed. How many do you have in your row and what sort of yield do you get?
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    What sort of raspberries do you want to grow - summer or autumn fruiting?
    I'd recommend 2 rows, one of summer and the other of autumn. Plant the summer ones in the sunny row and the autumn ones in the less sunny spot.
    As the others have said, they multiply quickly, not matter haw far apart you plant them. I've also found that most of the suckers will be on the south side of the plant.
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    Sure there will be folks on your allotment site that have stray plants. I've a row of Autumn Rasps, with stray plants over 1m away. Keep coming back even with constant mowing You just have to dig them out.

    The distance between plants is a compromise for a new bed. Cost benefit thing. They beds fill up quickly. So if you have extra plants, pop them in any you'll get higher yields of fruit faster. Will just mean you'll have to start thinning the plants at end of each season harder and sooner than would be the case otherwise.


    Two rows in the bed is going to be an ask, but if you have a reasonable path down each outer side, may be doable. Just a tight squeeze down the middle.

    The Wild Option.
    Treat whole bed as a one. Support wire round the outside and let the inner canes support each other.
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    I've got a lot of space....one patch is 20ft long and has grown to about 10ft deep these are winter fruiting. I wouldn't ever plant like that again....it's a forest and difficult to pick.
    Then I have my conventional rows. I have 2 which are both over 20ft long.
    If I was to start again I would only have autumn fruitingcanes. You don't need to prune all of these and you get to pick from them during the summer then the autumn.
    Summer fruiting canes need to be tied in or they fall over.
    Like VC say they stray every where and I am constantly digging them out. I use the lawn mover to keep the rows from spreading out more.
    I don't weigh the fruit. I have a job keeping on top of picking, it takes a lot of time when there are so many other jobs to do. I make lots of jams and I freeze lots.

    I would also get cuttings from your neighbours.
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