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    So I’m looking for some dark fruit trees for the Allotment. I have looked online and a lot of them come in 9cm pots. Surely that is way too small and I will be waiting possibly years for my fruit!
    I think it’s too late to plant bare root too now isn’t it? So where is best to buy from now?
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    A local garden centre would be your best option to buy a tree for apples pears cherries and plums.

    If you specifically want fruit this year you'll need to buy the biggest trees they have, with most importantly some flowers on, or about to flower.

    Personally I wouldn't go down this route. I would wait till next winter, buy a bareroot from an online nursery and wait a few years for fruit. Younger trees establish better, you'll get more choice of variety, probably better quality trees compared to a pot grown specimen. Its just a better option.
    The more help a man has in his garden, the less it belongs to him.
    William M. Davies

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    • #3
      And cost! You'll be paying in the region of £30-£40 a tree in a garden centre, rather than £15 for a bareroot 1 year old.
      The more help a man has in his garden, the less it belongs to him.
      William M. Davies

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      • #4
        What are dark fruit trees? was it definitely 9cm and not 9l? what sites are you looking at? your post has me baffled

        As already mentioned (if it is trees you are after) I would wait to get bare root trees next winter. They are cheaper and tend to take better.

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        • #5
          I'm going to be wanting a couple of apple trees for my garden at some point, so have been doing some reading up. Advice seems to be to look around for local nurseries that sell trees. They will advise on the best varieties for your area, and you can be sure they will be quality plants.

          Maybe more of an issue here in Scotland than with you, as some of the 'standard' varieties like Cox's apparently don't do well here - maybe you can grow anything you like in Sussex.
          Last edited by Babru; 09-04-2019, 07:26 AM.
          Mostly flowers, some fruit and veg, at the seaside in Edinburgh.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Norfolkgrey View Post
            What are dark fruit trees? was it definitely 9cm and not 9l? what sites are you looking at? your post has me baffled

            As already mentioned (if it is trees you are after) I would wait to get bare root trees next winter. They are cheaper and tend to take better.
            Oops I meant Dwarf! That’s what I get for typing at 6 in the morning lol
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Norfolkgrey View Post
              What are dark fruit trees? was it definitely 9cm and not 9l? what sites are you looking at? your post has me baffled

              As already mentioned (if it is trees you are after) I would wait to get bare root trees next winter. They are cheaper and tend to take better.
              Yeah definitely 9cm, it’s from the popular garden site with T and M in the name
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              • #8
                Originally posted by MarkHackwell View Post
                Yeah definitely 9cm, it’s from the popular garden site with T and M in the name
                Ha ha, that makes a world of difference. I shan't go into one about that particular site If you are planting in the ground than opt for bare root in winter but if they are dwarfs for pots then a cheapy collection is fine. (just don't expect too much when they arrive). I think from past posts peeps tend to be happy with them in the long run. The other option for pots is a larger rootstock and treat them a bit like bonsai. Just remember the smaller the rootstock the more fuss it is likely to want.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Babru View Post
                  I'm going to be wanting a couple of apple trees for my garden at some point, so have been doing some reading up. Advice seems to be to look around for local nurseries that sell trees. They will advise on the best varieties for your area, and you can be sure they will be quality plants.

                  Maybe more of an issue here in Scotland than with you, as some of the 'standard' varieties like Cox's apparently don't do well here - maybe you can grow anything you like in Sussex.
                  Cox isn't a good grower in most places but it has plenty of relatives https://www.orangepippin.com/varieti...-orange-pippin

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                  • #10
                    If you want plants to fruit quickly and not get too big I'd say stick to soft fruit - I love growing fruit trees like apples and plums, but its really a long term project - my guess is that you'll find very dwarf trees a disappointment in terms of cropping. If you have a warm fence or wall, a grape vine can also give good results, without taking up much space.

                    Happy gardening :-)

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                    • #11
                      Morrisons are selling dwarf fruit trees, in pots, for £5. A couple were flowering..
                      I'd prefer to pay £5 for something I can see than go to T/M for something in a tiddly pot.

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                      • #12
                        I used to buy from t&m regularly, when Tesco were giving you a £15 t&m voucher for £5 in clubcard points, and you could use 3 vouchers per order. Now Tesco have stopped doing that I don't order from them any more. You can get better value elsewhere (although to be fair their customer service is excellent, when they sent me the wrong blackberry or when my hazelnut went missing in the post they sent replacements straight out, no questions).
                        Our local nursery is selling potted fruit trees for £15, two for £25. And of course this year they have varieties they didn't last year (which I ended up paying twice that price for online). About 8 different pears, half a dozen plums, 8 cherries and a dozen or more apples, plus a couple of quinces. Fortunately my wife was with me so I was unable to buy any (garden is pretty full as it is). They're all bog standard mass produced stuff on colt, quince a or mm106, but t&m probably get their stuff from the same suppliers.
                        Moral of story: if you want a rarer variety or a specific rootstock, buy bare rooted online from somewhere that grafts themselves. If you want a common variety/rootstock pop down your scruffiest local nursery (if it has a posh restaurant or sells ornaments steer clear) and grab something you can see, they'll be a good size and you can poke it before purchase. If you see trees for a fiver, look at it and see if it's worth a punt. I have trees from reputable breeders, big companies, eBay, Lidl, b&q and B&M bargains amongst others. Some arrived in worse state than others, but that doesn't correlate much with price and once they're a year in the ground they're all much of a muchness so far as I can tell - cheaper places often have less roots left on if bare roots and need a bit more recovery, but stuff in pots, if it looks healthy it generally is ok.

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                        • #13
                          Search around for a local nursery, garden centre or supplier, there will be several.
                          Have a look at a few - reason I day is that there is one around me that is a small GC. But has some well mature fruit trees. I get the feeling they order in 30, sell 25 and the others are kept until sold, which may be a year or two. They can get a decent sized tree at times.

                          As to dwarf, I can only think of apples that are specifically "dwarf". My small cherry is a good 12 feet tall and 12 feet wide.

                          My apples are coming into leaf so will blossom soon, plum has blossomed, cherry is just about to open up. So you may be a little late unless you go find one coming into blossom and get it in the ground sort of immediatly.

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                          • #14
                            Thanks for the link to orangepippin, Norfolkgrey. Useful info on growing all kinds of fruit in different areas of the country https://www.orangepippintrees.co.uk/...the-uk-climate, it's a very nice site.

                            I will need to study their varieties, rootstock info etc. I would rather pay a bit more to a specialist for a couple of apples that will do well in my garden than be disappointed and have to take trees out down the line.
                            Mostly flowers, some fruit and veg, at the seaside in Edinburgh.

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                            • #15
                              Gardenfocused also have good information on varieties, flowering dates, pollination etc. Good stuff on lots of fruit.

                              https://www.gardenfocused.co.uk/frui...pples/grow.php

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