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    Hello there, I have been reading many threads and blogs across the net and this seemed to be recommended as a place to come for advice. Most blogs also encourage you to document your progress on forums etc and so I hope I am posting in the right area, apologies if not.

    In short about 5 weeks ago after being on a waiting list I was allocated a half plot at my local allotment. This plot is overrun with weeds and so needed a lot of work, so much so the person running it has voided the rent for this year and apologised for its state profusely. To be honest whatever plot I was given I wanted to make my own mark!

    So, the plot.... It is divided into 8 raised beds which seem to have been built well albeit in a couple of places the boards have rotted (mainly due to being so overgrown they have remained damp even through the hot periods. Luckily last night I found a spare plank buried in mud on the plot which I am hoping will dry out and be a good patch up tool!

    The whole plot is covered in about 4ft high weeds and has a few wood framed nets embedded into the weeds as well as loads of rotted wood dumped on it, carpet, membrane. There are paths which are also covered in weeds albeit I have found out they do have membrane on but it has been left for so long that the weeds have grown on top of this.

    So, my plan...... I began digging each bed. I aim to clear every bed of weeds so it is down to soil level. I have been told that the only issue with this is that the weeds will rapidly come back. And they have on one bed (ill explain why just on one in a minute!) but I can manage that. When a bit bigger I will spend time pulling these up. I am under no illusion that one clearance will rid me of weeds forever but 2cm high weeds compared to 4ft is much more appreciated!

    The first bed I cleared I planted some spare runner bean seeds I had left over (planted a few in my garden). I was then given some cabbage so planted those as well. This was more just to give me something to "play with" whilst labouring away. If they don't work I really don't mind. But this is the bed that weeds are growing on mainly because I am watering it. But I can deal with that.

    The other beds I am covering with things left by the previous owner, membrane, plastic sheet in the hope it will suppress the weeds a tad. (The carpet is absolutely rotted so not using that).

    The bed system he created is perfect for me, so much more workable.

    I work long weeks and my weekends really are dedicated to two young children so time is limited for the allotment. At the moment clearing it is taking place as many evenings as possible once the kids are in bed, but this is hard as daylight limits the hours!

    I want a low'ish maintenance plot but also want to actually grow things and not just basics! The reason I got the allotment was a bit of an outdoor activity for me but also to encourage the kids to see how things grow. My eldest (nearly 3) loves digging (although dug up the new runner beans last week) and so this is for them as well.

    I aim to make one of the beds grass, so as a family we can just have lunch on the grass whilst daddy digs and plants etc. The other beds I want to map out and plan with what we will actually eat. So I will update this thread with my progress, I appreciate not everyone will care less but having used forums over the years for many hobbies I think they are invaluable.

    Pictures of the "before" are attached.
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    Pictures playing up, here are the two angles of the "before"
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    • #3
      And here is a "mid point" picture, hardly an after shot! The pile of junk is a collection of all the rubbish found on the plot that has rotted beyond use really.
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      • #4
        Good morning Southlondonone....from another South London one (well, SE London really but close enough!)

        Welcome to the vine
        Some sterling work you've done there and your plan sounds perfect.
        Not long now and it will be time to plant overwintering garlic and onions (October) and they're nice and big for kiddies to help with.
        http://goneplotterin.blogspot.co.uk/

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        • #5
          Welcome saaarf landaaaaan one Sounds like you're going great guns - keep up the good work. We'll all love to read your updates, so don't worry about that!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by muddled View Post
            Good morning Southlondonone....from another South London one (well, SE London really but close enough!)

            Welcome to the vine
            Some sterling work you've done there and your plan sounds perfect.
            Not long now and it will be time to plant overwintering garlic and onions (October) and they're nice and big for kiddies to help with.
            Cheers, south Londoner born and bred here but moved further out (house prices!) Appreciate the comments, I'll keep this updated!

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            • #7
              That village of London must be quite cosy, there seem to be several grapes on here!

              It's good to see you encouraging the young ones, memories are what it's all about and one day they will be doing it for themselves.

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              • #8
                Welcome Southlondonone, please do share your progress! I've read your post with great interest, you seem determined to turn this into a little south London oasis!

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                • #9
                  Firstly apologies for not posting anything until now, but I haven't felt there has been much to post about as the whole time has been site clearance and sorting when I get the chance which isn't often at all.

                  But I have now cleared all eight beds, and have cleared a few twice! My biggest problem has been clearing a bed and the weeds coming back as they werent covered with membrane or anything at all for periods.

                  I have begun to relocate some items and planted some new items.

                  So what has been done......

                  1) I had a few raspberries from some bushes that had been left on the site. Therefore as I knew they were decent bushes I waited until November and moved them. They were entrenched in weeds so digging them up and pulling the weeds from the roots and then clearing the bed they were in was the best option. Whilst doing this I was offered some more bushes from another plot holder which I took. I also ordered some new raspberry canes prior to these free ones. I have planted the lot as my kids love raspberries and I am not sure how well some will take due to being moved. We will see.

                  2) I have planted out quite a few strawberry runners into the allotment. These were all grown from a good crop I had at home and have been planted in holes in membrane already laid.

                  3) I found what I thought/ think are blueberry bushes and wanted to try and keep these so I moved them to a new part of the allotment. I then was advised their love for acid soil and our allotments dont have such a soil type so wont grow. I mentioned I thought I had some on my patch but told they are likely something else. I have no idea what they are but still convinced they are blueberries! Trouble is as I moved them I wonder if the previous location was acid soil and the new bit wont be. But we shall see. Failing that I have ordered three blueberry bushes which I am going to put in pots.

                  4) My nightmare compost bin has begun it's dismantlement and there is a fair bit of soil at the bottom which looks usable but as I know there is bindweed in there I am cautious about using it. What I have planned is to drag it out and sort of sieve it with a rake and fork combo and use the soil to level off the area near the composter and the paths round it as there seems to be a hill formed, so can level it off. Will membrane it and acquire some paving slabs to go on top. See how that pans out!

                  5) Have installed some artificial grass on one of the beds but this will need to be lifted and sand laid underneath to assist drainage as water is pooling. It was uneven anyway really but one side of the bed has rotted so that needs replacing first.

                  Have attached some pictures of before and after and just the current after pictures. Along with the dreaded compost heap! The bed with the blue sheeting was my first cleared one, but it then became my dumping ground as I had nowhere else to put stuff! I cleared it today of all the weeds and so that is also clear now.

                  My biggest problem now is still getting rid of the compost/ weeds in the composter. I have made several trips on foot to the allotment with my garden waste wheelie bin and filled it but the waste doesnt seem to go down. Plus as it is now compost it is getting more and more heavy and i can only get so much in. I am considering spending a day with a friend bagging up the waste, a trip to the tip then back and just do several runs there and eventually itll be gone.

                  Once all cleared I can then relocate the composter and redesign it into two bins. I have also started getting materials together for making a storage unit of sorts from pallets and old wood.

                  Next things to do:
                  Order more membrane and lay it on parts that need still to be covered
                  Repair beds
                  Clear waste from site
                  Rebuild composter and storage
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                    • #11
                      You're doing great work, southlondonone I'm another south Londoner, but a long way from there now.

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                      • #12
                        The before and after photos must be so gratifying for you, well done and keep up the good work. And yes I'm another South London based member.
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                        • #13
                          Unfortunately whilst South London born and bred I no longer live there and joined the masses moving further South due to property prices.... But also for more green surroundings than grey ones!

                          Thanks for the comments. I am sort of itching now to start planting. I have several questions but think I will post these as separate threads as oppose to them blending into my "diary" here!

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                          • #14
                            Should have uploaded my plan for the plot! Struggled to get it into a format for viewing so apologies for the quality! Nothing is set in stone yet, but gives me an idea.

                            Crops in the plan are:
                            Blueberries (Grown in pots)
                            Raspberries
                            Blackberries
                            Sprouts
                            First Early Potatoes
                            Leeks
                            Lettuce (Summer/ Autumn)
                            Carrots
                            Tomatoes
                            Strawberries
                            Parsnips
                            Maincrop Potatoes
                            Courgette
                            Runner Beans
                            Pumpkins
                            Sweetcorn
                            Second Cropping Potatoes
                            Asparagus
                            Rocket
                            Aubergines (Grown in pots)
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                            • #15
                              I have been busy weeding some bits of my beds that weeds have sneaked through the edges of the membrane. So cleared those out and then laid some new wider membrane.

                              I have also been focusing on building my vegetable cages. I decided to buy plastic piping for these with numerous joints. I know we are meant to use what we get for free but I wanted them to all be "uniformed" across the three cages I have made and so designed them with price and longevity in mind. The total cost was probably £65 for the piping. The netting will likely be about the same price.

                              I am slightly worried about their stability, there is quite a lot of weight already on the "legs" of the frames with just the pipes etc but I intend to insert the legs about 30cm into the ground and so this should support them well. If not I am sure I will work something out!

                              Just some pictures attached of the general make up of the frames and the ways I have done the joints etc. Will do more once I get the nets on and assemble them on plot.

                              I have built them at home, then labelled every part so I can transport them to the allotment and rebuild. Like a big puzzle!

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