Can anyone help whats going on here?

**WendyC** · 17-06-2015, 07:33 PM

Sorry I can't tell what the problem is from the photo. Is it wilting? What sort of tree is it? Was it bare root or container grown?

**new gardener 1052** · 17-06-2015, 07:56 PM

Originally posted by WendyC View Post

Sorry I can't tell what the problem is from the photo. Is it wilting? What sort of tree is it? Was it bare root or container grown?

Good evening wendy, its a coxs orange pippin apple tree. it was container grown & was planted about 5 weeks ago. i have been watering it when i think it needs it but now starting to wonder if i have waterd it too much. it had a good water last thursday(2 watering cans full) I'm not sure about wilting what does wilting look like?

i must mention I'm new to gardening.

**marchogaeth** · 17-06-2015, 09:27 PM

It looks like it's just had a good blow around in the wind to me. I would not be too worried. After 5 weeks it should be putting out new roots and starting to look after itself a bit. What is your specific concern?

**new gardener 1052** · 17-06-2015, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by marchogaeth View Post

It looks like it's just had a good blow around in the wind to me. I would not be too worried. After 5 weeks it should be putting out new roots and starting to look after itself a bit. What is your specific concern?

Hi and thanks for your reply. My concern it's not getting enough or lack of water if that makes sence.
I water it twice a week normally 2 water cans full. I'm scared this might be too much or too little. It just didn't look that healthy and flowers have gone off of it. This might be normal I don't know? I've not long been into gardening.

**new gardener 1052** · 17-06-2015, 09:44 PM

The leaves seam to be curled up. & not as green.

**marchogaeth** · 18-06-2015, 05:56 AM

If it's also raining and the soil is not baked dry below the surface crust, I don't think I'd be watering it at all but I think you better see what others say!

**FB.** · 18-06-2015, 06:44 AM

The picture is quite small and not showing much detail, but as said above: it appears to be wind-battered. There might be some mildew appearing - Cox doesn't have much disease resistance.

Too much watering can cause fungal crown, collar and root rots, with some rootstocks more susceptible than others, especially if water regularly splashes against the base of the trunk.
Young trees are more susceptible than older trees due to having thinner bark and more burrknots which seem to be the main entry points of root rots.
Ironically, I find that trees planted with grass all the way to the trunk don't tend to get crown rot but can get crown rot in clear ground if over-watered. But in most areas only the vigorous rootstocks (MM111, M25) are suitable for competing with grass.

Loss of the flowers is normal on a young tree - the tree needs to develop a strong root system before it will be able to support a crop of fruit.

**new gardener 1052** · 18-06-2015, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by FB. View Post

The picture is quite small and not showing much detail, but as said above: it appears to be wind-battered. There might be some mildew appearing - Cox doesn't have much disease resistance.

Too much watering can cause fungal crown, collar and root rots, with some rootstocks more susceptible than others, especially if water regularly splashes against the base of the trunk.
Young trees are more susceptible than older trees due to having thinner bark and more burrknots which seem to be the main entry points of root rots.
Ironically, I find that trees planted with grass all the way to the trunk don't tend to get crown rot but can get crown rot in clear ground if over-watered. But in most areas only the vigorous rootstocks (MM111, M25) are suitable for competing with grass.

Loss of the flowers is normal on a young tree - the tree needs to develop a strong root system before it will be able to support a crop of fruit.

Thanks for your help, I will get some more photos later, and root stock info.are the problems you have mentioned serious?

**FB.** · 18-06-2015, 09:26 AM

Originally posted by new gardener 1052 View Post

.....are the problems you have mentioned serious?...

Root, crown and collar rot is usually fatal.

Mildew can severely weaken a tree which will make it less able to cope when faced with other problems (pests, diseases, weather).

Susceptibility to problems varies depending on the variety, the rootstock and the location (soil, climate etc).

**new gardener 1052** · 18-06-2015, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by FB. View Post

Root, crown and collar rot is usually fatal.

Mildew can severely weaken a tree which will make it less able to cope wh

en faced with other problems (pests, diseases, weather).

Susceptibility to problems varies depending on the variety, the rootstock and the location (soil, climate etc).

I never knew planting a few apple tree was going to lead to so much stress (ha ha)

**new gardener 1052** · 18-06-2015, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by FB. View Post

The picture is quite small and not showing much detail, but as said above: it appears to be wind-battered. There might be some mildew appearing - Cox doesn't have much disease resistance.

Too much watering can cause fungal crown, collar and root rots, with some rootstocks more susceptible than others, especially if water regularly splashes against the base of the trunk.
Young trees are more susceptible than older trees due to having thinner bark and more burrknots which seem to be the main entry points of root rots.
Ironically, I find that trees planted with grass all the way to the trunk don't tend to get crown rot but can get crown rot in clear ground if over-watered. But in most areas only the vigorous rootstocks (MM111, M25) are suitable for competing with grass.

Loss of the flowers is normal on a young tree - the tree needs to develop a strong root system before it will be able to support a crop of fruit.

So maybe I am planting in the wrong way? Would I be best buying trees on dwarf root stock and planting in containers? As I don't really want to dig up a lot of lawn.

**Kirk** · 18-06-2015, 02:11 PM

I wouldn't worry much, it looks OK.
After 5 weeks it is likely just sorting itself out in the new location.
When mine went in they rarely got watered unless the idea crossed my mind when doing the rest of the garden. So perhaps cut back the watering.
Trees are fairly robust, they have been around this planet many millions of years more then we have.

**new gardener 1052** · 18-06-2015, 06:12 PM

is my apple tree poorly?

(continued thread from yesterday) as requested by FB i attach some more pictures of my apple tree i have concerns over, the tree is a coxs orange pippin apple. on root stock (MM106)

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