Grapevine outside in container?

**Rossa** · 15-04-2009, 09:08 AM

As far as I know the Hamburg grape can only grow successfully under glass. We had one in a conservatory years ago and the famous one is at Hampton Court in a massive glasshouse. There are varieties that grow outdoors, have a look at Ken Muirs website. They were advertising their grape vines recently and had a couple of Muscat types that grow outdoors.

Also depends on where you are in the UK. More likely to do better in the South, but saying that the one we had was when we lived in Leeds, though South facing with lots of direct light/sun. I'm tempted but not sure I can wait as they can take a few years to really get going.

**selfraising** · 15-04-2009, 09:15 AM

Hi
Don't know about that variety, but you can grow them in containers as long as the container is large enough. I grew mine in one for the first few years until I found some ground space to put it in. You will just need to give it a lot of water in the summer as it is in a container and then topdress it in the spring with some manure. Also worth checking the container once in a while for vine weevils. When I moved mine into the soil, I found loads, fortunately they hadn't done too much root damage.

**roofgardenrita** · 16-04-2009, 08:20 AM

Thanks for that. On the label it does say Black Hamburg is ok for outside. I'm near central London so pretty far south so I'll try it and report back. Vine weevils are a curse of container gardens I'm afraid. I'm using nematodes for the first time this year as I can't bear the awful white poison you water in. It's a constant battle!

**Snadger** · 16-04-2009, 07:12 PM

I think nearly all grapevines are hardy, it's a case of the variety and region (even down to microclimate i.e. if you have them against a south facing wall!) that dictate whether you get fruit or not?

**ardroil** · 16-04-2009, 07:21 PM

ive got two grapevines, cant remember the names, ones a red grape and the other is green, i have one in the coldframe and the other in the unheated greenhouse and both are starting to come alive and budding along nicely, dont know how well they will do this far north but i think its worth a go, i paid 3.99 on ebay for the green one but they sent me the red one, so i emailed and said they sent me the wrong one and they said sorry and sent me the green one and told me to keep the red one, so 2 for the price of 1,
my fingers are crossed for them, im going to take them out in june and see how they cope! ill keep you posted

**Snadger** · 16-04-2009, 07:57 PM

Originally posted by ardroil View Post

ive got two grapevines, cant remember the names, ones a red grape and the other is green, i have one in the coldframe and the other in the unheated greenhouse and both are starting to come alive and budding along nicely, dont know how well they will do this far north but i think its worth a go, i paid 3.99 on ebay for the green one but they sent me the red one, so i emailed and said they sent me the wrong one and they said sorry and sent me the green one and told me to keep the red one, so 2 for the price of 1,
my fingers are crossed for them, im going to take them out in june and see how they cope! ill keep you posted

I have a red and pink blush ones! The red one is a Cabernet Sauvignon I bought from Woolies last year (NOT in the closing down sale I may add!) It has three main leaders and is halfway along my greenhouse and full of leaf.

The other is an unknown variety that I know performs well (Cos i got the cuttings off another local allotmenteer) it has pink blush grapes which are really sweet. I have two of these vines and they are both outdoors, one in the ground and the other in a pot. Both are budded up well so I'll have to hope for a hot summer to get some grapes from them!

**andrewo** · 17-04-2009, 08:26 PM

Grapevine roots like to be cool, so be wary of putting them in a pot that could heat up, like teracotta. I did grow mine in a pot for many years but never had much luck with grapes but I am on a more exposed site. I do suggest if you can, get it in the ground and over a permanent structure. I have mine over a seating area. Remember, if you don't get grapes, the leaves can be used, stuff them, steam them, eat them!

**Zenithtb** · 18-04-2009, 03:22 PM

I don't know about that variety, but in my blog pics I have my grape in a 40cm container. He seems perky already, sooooo...

Mark

**GrapeGrower** · 18-04-2009, 06:00 PM

I am currently growing Black Hamburg in a pot - mine says it is an indoor (under glass) vine. Although the vine will grow outside, the grapes won't ripen fully (if you get any) outside, and need the extra warmth of a greenhouse or something.

I don't have a greenhouse and only have the plant by mistake, and it is currently growing really well outside (will try to get some pics up soon). I am also growing several other outdoor strains in pots - Saint Laurent (2 of these), Pinot Noir and Muller Thurgau

**Snadger** · 18-04-2009, 06:09 PM

Originally posted by GrapeGrower View Post

I am currently growing Black Hamburg in a pot - mine says it is an indoor (under glass) vine. Although the vine will grow outside, the grapes won't ripen fully (if you get any) outside, and need the extra warmth of a greenhouse or something.

I don't have a greenhouse and only have the plant by mistake, and it is currently growing really well outside (will try to get some pics up soon). I am also growing several other outdoor strains in pots - Saint Laurent (2 of these), Pinot Noir and Muller Thurgau

Don't know which area you garden in GrapeGrower but welcome to the vine anyway!

**GrapeGrower** · 18-04-2009, 06:23 PM

Thanks Snadger

I am in Cardiff, South Wales and starting to get into gardening - mainly want to grow grapes to try and make wine. Been looking for a forum for a while and this one looks really good

**GrapeGrower** · 18-04-2009, 06:51 PM

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