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    Ellisons Orange Apple tree

    I am looking for a scab resistant tree for my northern garden and this variety caught my eye, the description in the catalogue sounds like the perfect choice, but it's not a variety I am familiar with. Any one have any experience with this one please?
    I intend to plant it with Lord Derby for a cooker, both in the same pollination group, both described as self fertile and both described as scab resistant.
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    I had one. It repeatedly suffered from canker which eventually killed it.
    The fruits also suffered moderate damage from codling maggots.

    If it wasn't for the canker problem I would tolerate the codling maggots because the fruits were tasty and resistant to scab.
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    • #3
      In general, I find the 'second early' (mid-August to early-September) eating apples to be the among the most susceptible to pests, diseases and problems such as bitter pit or severe biennial bearing.
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        Orangepippin have a selection of criteria page:
        https://www.orangepippintrees.co.uk/search.aspx?ps=2

        Might be it but bit unsure as the link I read and see are a little different.

        Interesting one is Bardsey.

        Another is Charles Ross, I added in Very Resistant to Scab and the numbers fell to 15, both the above are in.
        https://www.orangepippintrees.co.uk/...&rid=0&st=4254

        You may want to avoid late season apples, depends on the amount of summer you get for the fruits to ripen adaquately

        Must save the Orangepippin page.

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        • #5
          Ellison's Orange is one of the most flavoursome mid-season desert varieties in my opinion, especially when eaten straight off the tree. Left a couple of days the aniseed flavour develops a little. After a couple of weeks the flesh softens, but is still a great eater. The variety used to be grown commercially until the 1970s. The aniseed tinge is a like it or loathe it trait.
          However, it is very prone (particuarly in a wet year) to scab where I live in West Wales, and to codling moth , so might not be the best choice if tree numbers are limited.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by boundtothesoil View Post
            Ellison's Orange is one of the most flavoursome mid-season desert varieties in my opinion, especially when eaten straight off the tree. Left a couple of days the aniseed flavour develops a little. After a couple of weeks the flesh softens, but is still a great eater. The variety used to be grown commercially until the 1970s. The aniseed tinge is a like it or loathe it trait.
            However, it is very prone (particuarly in a wet year) to scab where I live in West Wales, and to codling moth , so might not be the best choice if tree numbers are limited.
            Yet the growers say it is scab resistant, I really don't want to plant a tree, wait a few years and then be in the same position as I was this year, 3 trees and not a single apple, never had this problem in my life before. Frustrating to know what to buy, a walk round the garden centres at the end of the season and almost all the plants on sale were diseased.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by burnie View Post
              Yet the growers say it is scab resistant, I really don't want to plant a tree, wait a few years and then be in the same position as I was this year, 3 trees and not a single apple, never had this problem in my life before. Frustrating to know what to buy, a walk round the garden centres at the end of the season and almost all the plants on sale were diseased.
              My Ellison's didn't have any significant scab before canker finally killed it but it probably depends on local climate and which scab variants are in the area.

              Most apples have at least one annoying characteristic. Mid-season apples seem to be the most difficult.

              For me, the 'least bad' mid-season apples are Laxton's Epicure, Gravenstein, Scrumptious and Tydeman's Early Worcester but they all have reported issues, or I've found issues not documented in literature (e.g. bitter pit for Scrumptious, strong biennial tendency for TEW).
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              • #8
                Ellison's Orange

                I hope it's not too late to say that Ellison's is the scabbiest apple I have! I have a not dissimilar Cox-type apple called Sunset that has never had any problems and fruits very reliably, and another called Kidd's Orange Red that gets some scab but not as badly as Ellison's and is a very nice late apple although doesn't fruit as well as Sunset.

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                • #9
                  Hi Fruitbats, where are you based? I'm looking for two apples to plant next year so am reading up on varieties. Geography seems to play a big part in how well different varieties do.
                  Mostly flowers, some fruit and veg, at the seaside in Edinburgh.

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