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    Quote Originally Posted by carolefu View Post
    When I was planning my herb yard, I was advised never to plant sage and rosemary together, or near each other, as they do not get on. With any mint & lemon balm plants, best to pot them in separate pots, as the others have rightly pointed out, they can take over.
    I've never heard of rosemary and sage not getting on! I wonder why? I've never grown them together, but not on purpose.

    I have a lovely variegated sage, in my fairly shady front garden, with the wind off the sea. Tough as old boots, decorative and useful in the kitchen. What's not to like! Definitely earns a place in any garden, but seems no need to put it in a choice spot.
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    The place where I purchased my herb plants from (Victoriana Nursery), mention it on both the rosemary & sage plants. They're really helpful with suggestions & advice - I had a borage plant that died, & the reason being, is that borage does not survive in pots (mine was put in a pot), and it's best to plant them in the garden
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    Quote Originally Posted by veggiechicken View Post
    Do you intend to use the herbs for anything or do you just want to grow them?
    I'm asking because if you want to pick leaves regularly you'll need to consider how to reach the plants in the middle of the plot - unless you have long arms.
    You also have some perennials and some annuals so think seriously about where to plant the perennials - especially the taller ones like rosemary because you don't want them to shade anything smaller.
    Also, as Scarlet said, Lemon balm (and mint) can be invasive.
    You should pot up your rosemary cutting once it has roots and let it establish itself before planting out.
    Yes I would likely mulch the whole herb bed and either put a woodchip pathway in through the plants or walk on the compost. Compost is actually quite springy unlike clay, so if it's done right you can walk on it and there isn't the same compaction problem that occurs when walking on clay.
    Thanks for the reminder about mint, lemon balm and members of this family. I'll likely confine these to pots near the shed.

    I'm planning on keeping the canopy on all the herbs very low, perhaps no more than 2-3 feet. I'm thinking I'll plant in a north to south direction. I'm hoping this will guarantee light penetration to the lower lying plants, at least 5-6 hours of sunlight per day.

    Perhaps planning a layout is a little OTT, but some of these plants will live for along time and likely see me off my allotment, so it's worth putting in a bit of energy now to get it right.
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    If it was mine, I'd plant in diagonal rows.
    If Bottom left corner is North, then top right is south.
    Run the rows from top left (East) to bottom right (West)
    Plant the tallest herbs in the row nearest the plum tree and the lowest herbs furthest away from the tree.

    I'd probably plant in curved rows too, because I dislike straight ones.
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    Good suggestion. I suppose the curve would relax things a little bit. All my veg beds are in straight lines but I'm quite happy to change the form here because it would work well I think.
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    A pretty basic plan would be :
    where do you want your permanent plants ie. rosemary, lavender etc.
    Then perennials, then annuals.

    You can get some hight from planting some things in pots, not just mint but I grow french tarragon and thyme in containers in the garden and then bring them into my unheated greenhouse for the winter. My tarragon has gone from an 9cm pot to 3x30cm pots in 3 years.

    some things are really easy and cheap from seed, while mint/tarragon etc will grow from roots cuttings/division. Some of the supermarket herbs can be divided or used as cuttings.
    Last year I got a few reduced plants from high st. garden centres a bit late in the season.

    if you fancy "named" varieties you will need to fork out a bit more. I also recommend victoriana as a source.

    Good luck and please keep us updated... we like photos
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    Hi everyone.
    This is the design I have come up with.
    Taking into consideration all the tallest plants are clustered to minimise their north shadow.
    Comfrey is deliberately grown on the north side of everything else as it does not seem to mind dappled or shady areas to grow. I've allowed more space for it to grow as a consequence of reduced sunlight hours.
    I will set out the paths in such a way that they will gently wind and not be rigid straight lines. I appreciate the look of a meandering path.
    The pattern allow for a person to be no more than a 1.5metres reach from the centre of each bed at any one time. This won't be enough to prevent compaction completely but it is a reasonable compromise I think. I may use bits of wood and walk on them when I need to extend the extra half metre or so to prune or harvest etc.
    Note that this is a mix of annuals and perennials and I intend to add a few annual veg and ornamental plants when I like it - basil, dill, etc.
    Some plants have been omitted like tarragon, bergaot, the labitae family, as they are better off in pots according to feedback and research.
    Note, I intend to keep rosemary and lavender heavily pruned.
    Welcome any feedback.
    Thanks
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    Looks good, Forage. My only question is - How much do you like Horseradish because its a spreader, with deep roots that are difficult to dig out completely, in my experience anyway!

    https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/grow-y...bs/horseradish
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